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re: Manchester Bomber Was Banned by Mosque and Reported to the Authorities at Least Five Times
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:52 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:52 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
The people who banned him from the mosque and reported him should be given medals.
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:53 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
But, BLAME ALL THE MUSLIMS instead of the lunatics running these countries who won't even enforce the laws as they exist.
Good, Western-friendly Muslims are the best antidote to the radicals there is. But, no, let's just alienate them all and think that will solve things.
Good, Western-friendly Muslims are the best antidote to the radicals there is. But, no, let's just alienate them all and think that will solve things.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:53 pm to beerJeep
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Lock them up. Give them only bacon to eat for a month. Then bathe them in pigs blood and put a 9mm round through their ear.
Sounds like a waste of perfectly good bacon.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:53 pm to tlsu15
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That sort of thing requires a lot of proof.
Yes, and you can get that sorta proof with a search of their home and/or internet history, which can be achieved via a warrant, which only requires probable cause. I think having 5 different accounts alerting him to the authorities is probable cause enough to justify a warrant for at least a partial search.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:53 pm to baldona
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Lock them all up for "thinking" about it?
Do not think that isn't coming. Tech board had a thread about new technology coming out to read human minds.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:55 pm to AlaTiger
No one is blaming all of them. There's a lot of blame to go around to those Muslims who don't condemn or even support these terrorist acts though. And even then, the religion still must be reformed by the moderates. We have to help them be the spearhead for reform.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:56 pm to rmnldr
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The people who banned him from the mosque and reported him should be given medals.
And actually given 72 virgins as promised
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:58 pm to rmnldr
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The people who banned him from the mosque and reported him should be given medals.
At least some sort of multiple source public recognition so more people in their communities know there are good people standing up against this radicalism and doing what they can do on their personal levels to make a difference.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:00 pm to Salmon
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without committing a crime?
If you've been reported several times to the authorities and have been found to be researching or in talks with terrorist organizations, why wait? Be proactive
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:00 pm to rmnldr
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And even then, the religion still must be reformed by the moderates. We have to help them be the spearhead for reform.
I have several questions for you.
Are you Christian?
Do you believe in the book of Revelations?
How far, in your opinion, does reform go?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:02 pm to rmnldr
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No one is blaming all of them
beerJeep is well on his way
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:03 pm to kingbob
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Yes, and you can get that sorta proof with a search of their home and/or internet history, which can be achieved via a warrant, which only requires probable cause. I think having 5 different accounts alerting him to the authorities is probable cause enough to justify a warrant for at least a partial search.
He could have been under some sort of surveillance before this happened is my point. Hindsight is 20/20 and it's impossible to stop all crimes. I wish he had been caught and thrown away long before he was able to hurt anyone too.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:03 pm to SamuelClemens
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Are you Christian? Do you believe in the book of Revelations? How far, in your opinion, does reform go?
I'm honestly surprised there was no "muh crusades" in your post.
FYI the Christian enlightenment happened hundreds of years ago. Even those who believe in revelation and the old testament aren't living their lives on and preaching a literal interpretation of those books.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:04 pm to tlsu15
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beerJeep is well on his way
One of my best friends is Muslim and from Pakistan. I know and hang out with several Muslims weekly. I have zero problems with Muslims as a whole. So try again.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:08 pm to upgrayedd
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There are probably a couple thousand people in the UK that have that exact classification
3,500 apparently
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:10 pm to beerJeep
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Even those who believe in revelation and the old testament aren't living their lives on and preaching a literal interpretation of those books.
Should the Vatican (fountain head of Christian church ** Peter & Paul to Rome after Christ's death) ban the book of Revelations from the Bible and the Christian religions who continue to keep it without getting new Bible's and preach from it be investigated, closed down and members locked up?
Many Mosques do not preach literal translation yet many people quote literal verses when blaming the religion.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:15 pm to SamuelClemens
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Should the Vatican (fountain head of Christian church ** Peter & Paul to Rome after Christ's death) ban the book of Revelations from the Bible and the Christian religions who continue to keep it without getting new Bible's and preach from it be investigated, closed down and members locked up?
Idk. Are Christians bombing concerts? Running trucks through crowds? Performing terrorist acts in the name of Christianity?
When those become prevalent, go ahead. Until then, let's focus on the ones who ARE performing acts of terror against innocent people for their God and religion.
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Many Mosques do not preach literal translation yet many people quote literal verses when blaming the religion.
And many do. I think the literal translation of any religions text is not only stupid, but self serving as well as irresponsible. All religious texts should be looked at simply as adult versions of asops fables. Simple life stories to teach you to be a better person to one another. Care for you and yours, and be peaceful.
Religion becomes dangerous when it is read literally.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:16 pm to tlsu15
All, yes, but bombings require quite a bit of material to pull off on this scale. A little due diligence can go a long long way to reducing successful attacks.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:16 pm to JetsetNuggs
probably bollocks which I think is Cockney for bullshite
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:18 pm to SamuelClemens
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Are you Christian?
Yes
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Do you believe in the book of Revelations?
I think it's largely symbolic and shouldn't be taken literally.
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How far, in your opinion, does reform go?
Removing calls for violence. The Koran and the Hadith both have many passages that advocate for violence and slaying the kafir. Those need to go. Also, Muslims need to rid themselves of their prophet, Muhammad, as he was a violent and disgusting man.
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