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re: LSU Students & Alumni to March on Capitol next Thursday April 30 @ 12:30
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:14 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:14 pm to tigerinthebueche
Exactly. I don't really understand where the cuts are supposed to come from. There's not some magical stash of money that the state is hiding. Would you rather the state cut funding to hurricane relief or DPW or higher Ed?
Financially this is a tough time in the country. Decisions have to be made. Ideally you would cut out some of the redundant universities instead of clipping your bell cow, but what has to be done has to be done.
And this is from an LSU grad
Financially this is a tough time in the country. Decisions have to be made. Ideally you would cut out some of the redundant universities instead of clipping your bell cow, but what has to be done has to be done.
And this is from an LSU grad
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:16 pm to kbol34
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strike me as a very selfish Ayn Rand type person who uses the word me/I in every sentence. I hope that changes.
a lot of things she predicted in her book is happening. Don't try to shame a person as being "selfish" as a counter argument. It makes you loOK like you are using emotions to convey your point of view. Try to use facts, logic.
About LSU cirriculum, I agree with one of the previous poster that the school should get grid on these irrelevant classes. if you want to learn about french art history or women suffrage, get a library card. Employers now a day are looking for only a handful of critical thinking, problem solvers to fill limited positions. If a company is looking at 10 candidates to fill their office position, they will choose someone with solid excel skills vs a person who can discuss the intricacies oil paintings.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:16 pm to kbol34
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Some business and engineering students minor in subjects you would consider bullshite courses. From languages to graphic design.
I don't think there are too many people that want to cut graphic design and language courses, so quit being melodramatic.
However, I do know of several of fashion design majors who have never found a job in their field.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:16 pm to kbol34
I bet 70% of those clowns never attended LSU.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:18 pm to PeteRose
A lot of the best critical thinkers are liberal arts majors. I have friends in engineering and other sciences that are good with numbers but make me wonder how they can put their shoes on in the morning.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:19 pm to upgrayedd
Communications is probably one of the more worthless programs. Basically an mrs program for sorority girls who couldn't hack it in nursing. Education majors are another. Anyone can be a teacher as long as they have a degree and get certified. Why do we need a major for this?
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:20 pm to NIH
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Communications is probably one of the more worthless programs.
I'll agree with that.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:24 pm to upgrayedd
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90% will be liberal arts students who are pissed that the school might cut their "Medieval sign language" classes.
Officials are talking about academic bankruptcy. This goes way beyond cutting "useless" programs. Every student, staff, and alumni that can make it should be marching. This is a truly grim situation for the state's education.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:27 pm to The Pirate King
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what has to be done has to be done.
Touche. And if publicly funded entities were run like private organizations (fiscally) they wouldn't be in this pickle as often or to such an extent, when the financial times get tough. It amazes me that private industry and private individuals can make do, make the painful adjustments necessary, and still carry on without protests, marches, caterwauling, and all the drama LSU (and other universities) put on over fiscal issues. They act like they have a right to money. As if they are so important, that they can't possibly be asked to make sacrifices! frick that noise. The economy is a big shite sandwich right now, so LSU and all the other schools better tuck their napkin under their chin and take a bite. it is what it is.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:28 pm to npersa1
Honestly, I would've much rather taken more ag or forestry classes when I was getting my forestry degree. Now, I wish I had more room to take ME electives, but I've got to take dumb frick classes like literature instead
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:28 pm to kbol34
Banning any member of this legislature and their direct decendants from attending any LSU sporting event for life may get a tad more accomplished.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:32 pm to Superior Pariah
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Officials are talking about academic bankruptcy.
Please explain.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:32 pm to kbol34
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Also, to whoever put down the art school. Realize that the world would suck without art. Art includes music, movies, modeling, graphic design...not just abstract painting. Get that out of your head and get off your high horse.
I agree that art is important and accept the idea of public funding for arts. But please don't say we need a college of art in order to have art in the world.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:33 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Makes Sense
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:37 pm to kbol34
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You're a stalker and a loser.
Just pulling back the wool..You're very defensive about what some consider useless subjects and majors...
ETA: Using google to see what other sites you post your anti-everything is just good business...You're like a smarter DV...
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:50 pm to kbol34
Do they have to bring their own hyperbole?
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:52 pm to PeteRose
So you want our supposed flagship university to be a trade school?
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:53 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:welcome to the OT
So you want our supposed flagship university to be a trade school?
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:56 pm to kbol34
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Attended the exact same rally back in either '91 or '92, Edwards' last term.
Same here. Based on that experience, I will tell you what will happen on April 30.
There will be a few thousand LSU faithful there, and who knows... maybe Southern will show up, too. The LSU band will probably be there.
There will be some local media, and the usual gaggle of capitol press crops will step outside of a look or two. It will be a minor mention in their regular daily report of goings on at the legislature.
The SGA president will speak. King Alexander or somesuch will speak. The state rep, but not the senator from 70808 will speak. Maybe if you're lucky Jay Dardenne will speak.
The governor will not be there. Nor anyone that will answer any of the questions you have. In fact, the political leeches in the senate and house no more than 100 yards away will still be talking amongst themselves, ignoring your protest.
It will feel good for about five minutes to vent your frustration, and absolutely nothing will happen as a result of the rally. I don't say this to discourage you... I'm just telling you how very little your legislators will care about what you are doing, because none of it personally affects them.
If you want to get a politician's attention, you have to get in the way of one of three things. First, their flow of money. Second, their acquisition of position. Thirdly, their prospects of getting laid.
If it doesn't affect any of those things, your protest will be ineffective.
If you haven't done so yet... I urge EVERYONE. EVERYONE. To go to the house and/or senate while the legislature is in session. Just go. Once. All you have to do is go once, because you will be so disgusted you will never return. It is the state's greatest collection of shysters, grab-assers and morons you have ever seen, and they are all having the time of their lives talking amongst themselves and not getting one single fricking thing done.
Getting their attention is like trying to gain the focus of a 5 year old with ADD. Unless you are waving candy in front of them or taking it away, you don't stand a chance.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:13 pm to tigerinthebueche
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And if publicly funded entities were run like private organizations (fiscally)
So, here we're getting back into the philosophical arguments about the purpose of government. Tuition at private sector, for-profit higher ed institutions is notably higher than at public ones, and the quality of the education is questioned by some.
I don't think the public at large has a strong understanding of what the statement "run government like a business" really even means, and I'd be interested to see the public polling data on how informed voters feel the government should operate and what the government's purpose is. For now, though, the rules seem to be that we collectively buy into government to accomplish social good that otherwise might not happen (And, under the current landscape, that can include educating the artist and giving an artist a place to strengthen his skill so the social impact of his art may be greater; granted, plenty of people will disagree that's a worthwhile endeavor).
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Does it make sense to run government like a business? The short answer is no. Bear in mind, first, that “efficiency” in the private sector means profit. Hence, to ask that the government be run like a business is tantamount to asking that the government turn a profit. The problem in a nutshell, is that not everything that is profitable is of social value and not everything of social value is profitable.
Opinion on Forbes
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It amazes me that private industry and private individuals can make do
In higher education, I'm not sure the private sector is making do.
U.S. Private Colleges Face Enrollment Decline
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From 2010 through 2012, freshman enrollment at more than a quarter of U.S. private four-year schools declined 10% or more, according to federal data The Wall Street Journal analyzed. From 2006 through 2009, fewer than one in five experienced a similar decline.
The trajectory reflects demographic and technological changes, along with questions about a college degree's value that are challenging centuries-old business models. The impact is uneven: Some wealthy, selective private colleges are flourishing, while many others suffer.
Private Distrees (via Inside Higher Ed)
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College presidents, private college trade groups and higher ed consultants blame a confluence of long- and short-term trends for battering some private colleges, particularly the small to mid-sized privates that depend on tuition dollars because they don't have significant endowments.
And, of course, since we're talking about for-profit schools and student debt,
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Student Debt (via YouTube)
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