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Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:41 am to Choctaw
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LSU, anticipating significant budget cuts from the state, is scaling back on the hiring of new faculty.
"We're going ahead with our course offerings but we have scaled back hiring," LSU President F. King Alexander, also chancellor at the Baton Rouge campus, said.
The university had planned on hiring 125 new faculty members, a majority of which are replacements due to retirements and open vacancies, but Alexander said that figure will be scaled back by some 50 percent. Instead, LSU will look to hire 60 new faculty members.
Wait a minute... I've been hearing all the bullshite about professors losing their jobs due to budget cuts... but is it just that LSU isn't hiring as many new people as they wanted? So nobody is actually losing their job... it's just less people being hired?
LULZ
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:44 am to Choctaw
You are looking at it the wrong way. That percentage should be much larger. It is a state college, the state is supposed to contribute more than 3%-10% of its budget. OR the school should have a much larger endowment. That would mean wealthy alumni need to start donating to the school and not just TAF (I know that TAF donates 5 million a year to the school and that's nice but it is a paltry amount). TAF wouldn't have that money to donate to the school if TAF's donors were donating to the school like they should be.
Also, to whoever put down the art school. Realize that the world would suck without art. Art includes music, movies, modeling, graphic design...not just abstract painting. Get that out of your head and get off your high horse.
Also, to whoever put down the art school. Realize that the world would suck without art. Art includes music, movies, modeling, graphic design...not just abstract painting. Get that out of your head and get off your high horse.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:44 am to kbol34
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business or engineering I'm guessing
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Engineering and business students, y’all won’t be affected right? Those programs are the gems of the University. They wouldn’t dare touch those institutions.
Wrong.
While you are sleeping, your schools may lose their accreditation.
In February, when the cuts were an estimated 35 percent, administrators warned the cuts would jeopardize the accreditation of the engineering and business schools. Now the cuts are likely to be 82 percent.
The teacher to student ratio, which is already high, will go up and threaten both colleges’ national competitive standing. Your degree will not mean as much as a degree from Ole Miss or the University of Alabama, and your chances of finding a job in the national marketplace will decrease exponentially.
Completing an engineering degree flow chart will take longer than expected when the class you need to move on to next semester’s engineering classes is full.
via Opinion: Students need to act now to save University
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:46 am to npersa1
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the class you need to move on
Start here...Cut the bullshite courses
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:48 am to GrammarKnotsi
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Start here...Cut the bullshite courses
I don't think that's quite what they mean. They're not saying "you have to take a liberal arts class to fufill the major's requirements" but rather "you might not be able to get into that math/eng prerequisite class this semester that you're required to take to enroll in the course you need next semester to stay on the flow chart's four-year plan."
The full quote again:
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Completing an engineering degree flow chart will take longer than expected when the class you need to move on to next semester’s engineering classes is full.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:49 am to kbol34
quote:So engineers and economists can't throw some paint on a piece of paper or put two rhyming words together?
Art includes music, movies, modeling, graphic design...not just abstract painting
There can be schools for art....just not a school facing a budget crisis. Arts and humanities are worthless for LSU. It should cut all of those and stick to the meat and potatoes. That would enhance the business, ag, and engineering schools immensely. Drop all of the worthless crap and you can make the worthwhile colleges much better
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:51 am to kbol34
Can't make it that day, some students have finals, ya heard? Let's reschedule - I'll call the other guy who's going.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:53 am to npersa1
Alexander's fear mongering will/is doing more damage than a 3% budget cut. He's telling the whole country that LSU is basically run into the ground and will have to close and lose accreditation and declare bankruptcy. He's using hot button words like "bankruptcy" "closing" "cancelled" to try to get more attention for himself and his cause.
Considering LSU's out of state tuition brings in 50% more than in-state, he's only hurting the university by making it seem weaker than it really is.
Considering LSU's out of state tuition brings in 50% more than in-state, he's only hurting the university by making it seem weaker than it really is.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:54 am to kbol34
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"best and brightest" in Louisiana
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LSU
If that's the case maybe we should focus on attracting the "best and brightest" from other states instead
ETA: Not a hater. I have two degrees from LSU
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 11:55 am
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:55 am to kbol34
Attended the exact same rally back in either '91 or '92, Edwards' last term.
Higher Ed was gonna get cut 110 million. Looking back, that was peanuts.
Grambling students were there at the Capitol wearing t-shirts that said "the blacker the college, the sweeter the knowledge."
Good good times.
Higher Ed was gonna get cut 110 million. Looking back, that was peanuts.
Grambling students were there at the Capitol wearing t-shirts that said "the blacker the college, the sweeter the knowledge."
Good good times.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:56 am to GrammarKnotsi
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Start here...Cut the bull shite courses
Some business and engineering students minor in subjects you would consider bullshite courses. From languages to graphic design.
My friend was a accounting major here at LSU a few years ago. She wanted to minor in Portuguese, but after they cut the program, she left. If the same thing happens to more languages and other "bullshite courses" you will see similar correlation effects.
Just because the course isn't crunching numbers the whole time doesn't mean it's a bullshite course. You strike me as a very selfish Ayn Rand type person who uses the word me/I in every sentence. I hope that changes.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:57 am to Hammertime
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Arts and humanities are worthless for LSU. It should cut all of those and stick to the meat and potatoes.
I think this is a fair argument, and probably one that needs to at least be on the table amid the financial circumstances, but I also don't think it's an argument you can win. You're getting into the whole philosophical area of higher ed's purpose and mission. I'd guess (randomly) that as many people who feel the way you do about the liberal arts will feel the exact opposite -- the the business, engineering, etc students need that liberal arts exposure, and the overall benefit is worthwhile.
If anything, in my own personal opinion, we can talk about re-shaping the missions of basically every other university in Louisiana apart from the flagship. Cutting out the entire liberal arts education component of LSU would be detrimental, imho.
New Report Documents That Liberal Arts Disciplines Prepare Graduates for Long-Term Professional Success
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Responding to concerns about whether college is still worth it and whether liberal arts* majors provide a solid foundation for long-term employment and career success, the report compares earnings trajectories and career pathways for liberal arts majors with the earnings trajectories and career pathways for those majoring in science and mathematics, engineering, and professional or preprofessional fields like business or education.
"Recent attacks on the liberal arts by ill-informed commentators and policy makers have painted a misleading picture of the value of the liberal arts to individuals and our communities," said AAC&U President Carol Geary Schneider. "As the findings in this report demonstrate, majoring in a liberal arts field can and does lead to successful and remunerative careers in a wide array of professions.”
Forbes: Why Getting A Liberal Arts College Education Is Not A Mistake
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My advice: Do what you love, study what interests you, get good internships, connect with as many people as possible who might help you land a job, be willing to work hard and be resourceful–and you’ll be fine, whether or not you know how to build an app or program a computer.
Washington Post: We don’t need more STEM majors. We need more STEM majors with liberal arts training.
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To innovate is to introduce change. While STEM workers can certainly drive innovation through science alone, imagine how much more innovative students and employees could be if the pool of knowledge from which they draw is wider and deeper. That occurs as the result of a liberal arts education.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:58 am to Sao
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Half of the people attending will get bored and leave by 1:00...
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Will this effect LSU sports in any way? That's the only thing I care about.
Two great posts back to back. Lsu fans leaving at half time? Inconceivable!
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:03 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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"best and brightest"
I made this thread right after I woke up; it's easy to make a typo when you're half asleep. I should've been especially careful when writing a thread about education though. Typos are of course an easy target when someone is trying to make a point about education.
That said, try to focus on the content of the thread. I scored a 34 on the English section of ACT if that makes you feel better.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:04 pm to kbol34
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You are looking at it the wrong way.
you ever consider you might be looking at it the wrong way?
Maybe the state just doesn't have the money. How bout LSU suck it the frick up like the citizens have to when they encounter financial hardships or personal budget issues. God I'm sick of publicly funded institutions bitching and whining when they are told to live within their means. Newsflash LSU, you aren't that special. Deal with it. Everybody has to adjust their spending so get the frick over yourself, shut up and figure out how to make it work. Everyone in private industry does.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:07 pm to kbol34
sorry I'll be studying and working
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:08 pm to upgrayedd
College is not vo-tech. You don't attend a university to get a trade, it's there to educate and open doors.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:10 pm to NIH
Do people not know they have to pay for college? You can learn at a library.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:12 pm to kbol34
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uses the word me/I in every sentence
Except the ones you quoted..
and this one..
and that one...
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