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re: Low Back Pain - Degenerative Disc Disease - Checking In
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:42 pm to jtayl71
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:42 pm to jtayl71
Yep.
Means the “cushions” that keep your spinal bones separated and allow for flexibility are shrinking or are gone.
It’s typically treated with epidural injections (can last up to a year), nerve burn, and/or pain meds.
Really bad cases will lead to a possible spinal fusion or disc replacement.
I have no disc between L2-L3 and minor degeneration around it. So, basically, my spinal bones are compressing on the nerves in-between and causing pain.
I’m just treating mine with pain meds and injections. Delaying surgery as long as possible.
Means the “cushions” that keep your spinal bones separated and allow for flexibility are shrinking or are gone.
It’s typically treated with epidural injections (can last up to a year), nerve burn, and/or pain meds.
Really bad cases will lead to a possible spinal fusion or disc replacement.
I have no disc between L2-L3 and minor degeneration around it. So, basically, my spinal bones are compressing on the nerves in-between and causing pain.
I’m just treating mine with pain meds and injections. Delaying surgery as long as possible.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:47 pm to whodatdude
That sucks Whodat, if you don't mine me asking, what is your age? My degeneration was stated on my MRI report as "mild dessication" and my ortho showed me a picture of my MRI and it was just a very small dot to one side of my disc. I'm hoping that the next month and a half of physical therapy will help me out. I hope you can delay surgery for a good while, I hope mine doesn't have to come to that.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:49 pm to jtayl71
I have been diagnosed. From the way the dr. explained to me, it happens over time but also as you get older, the disks harden therefore kind of takes care of itself. At 34 I’m just at the middle ground where the disks are thinning but haven’t hardened enough yet to ease the pain.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:56 pm to jtayl71
I got diagnosed at 28, 32 now.
Mine was bad from the start. Had several accidents (tree-climbing, jet-ski, etc) when I was younger that did damage to my back. That damage just amplified as I continued to get older. Had an MRI last week and the degeneration has slowed a good bit since my first one.
Physical therapy is great for minor degeneration, as strengthening the core muscles can help take stress off the discs and slow degeneration down. Just make sure you go all-in on the PT, even at home. It’ll give you a good gauge of how much it can help and will delay any surgical options (injections, etc) as long as possible.
Mine was bad from the start. Had several accidents (tree-climbing, jet-ski, etc) when I was younger that did damage to my back. That damage just amplified as I continued to get older. Had an MRI last week and the degeneration has slowed a good bit since my first one.
Physical therapy is great for minor degeneration, as strengthening the core muscles can help take stress off the discs and slow degeneration down. Just make sure you go all-in on the PT, even at home. It’ll give you a good gauge of how much it can help and will delay any surgical options (injections, etc) as long as possible.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:00 pm to whodatdude
Thanks for the information, and sorry youre having to deal with that. I am going all in on PT, just started a week ago and can already tell a difference in my legs. So I do my exercises two times a day at home and will most likely continue these indefinitely. Hopefully over the next five weeks I will see considerable improvement.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:07 pm to jtayl71
I'm 28 and have some lower back issues, as well. I've never gone to the doctor to get it looked at but if I'm lying on the ground playing with the kids on my back and I try to sit up too fast I'll get that sharp pinched nerve feeling. A month or two back it took me about 5 minutes to roll over and grab onto the couch and ease my way up.
I have no specific injuries that I can point it back to and I'm 6'2" 190 so I don't think it's extra weight wear and tear.
I have no specific injuries that I can point it back to and I'm 6'2" 190 so I don't think it's extra weight wear and tear.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:08 pm to jtayl71
Ughhh. I’m positive this is what I’m dealing with. Constant lower back pain for over a year now. Feels like a pinched nerve. Some days are better than others, but I’m always aware of it & know it’s a matter of time before it hurts again.
I’ve been putting off going to the doctor because I feel like a hypochondriac when I go for that kind of stuff. What kind of doctor did you go to to get diagnosed? Your primary doc? An ortho doc?
I’ve been putting off going to the doctor because I feel like a hypochondriac when I go for that kind of stuff. What kind of doctor did you go to to get diagnosed? Your primary doc? An ortho doc?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:11 pm to jtayl71
I have degenerative disc disease and the best thing I’ve found to help is an inversion table. You can get one at Academy for a couple hundred bucks. We got ours from a Teeter infomercial.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:13 pm to jtayl71
I'm 47 and have had it for years. There are decent days and bad. The best advice I can give are stretches, physical therapy, and an inversion table. Do what the PT tells you. I didn't at first, but when I actually started listening and following through, it made lots of difference. I've been functioning mostly normally for quite a while now. I've avoided injections and surgery with simple stretches and exercises, and using an inversion table.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:13 pm to JDMMonroeTiger
I've been looking into these a lot lately. I'm actually going to run it by my PT today to get his opinion, it seems like that might be able to help a good bit in theory.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:14 pm to HuckleBearer
Awesome, thanks for the reply.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:15 pm to Evil Little Thing
Go see primary and he can refer you.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:17 pm to Evil Little Thing
Yes go to your primary, I went straight to an Ortho and got my diagnosis. Good luck, I hope its just something mild that can be remedied for you.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:20 pm to SLafourche07
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SLafourche07
I know the feeling. I'm 6'-0" 160 so I am still very confused/bewildered as to how I've managed to jack my back up so badly. I guess its just poor posture over time and maybe something genetic.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:24 pm to jtayl71
Been dealing with DDD in L4/L5 and L5/S1 for over ten years. Good days and bad. Has been acting up bad for the last week so going to get my semi-annual steroid shot tomorrow. They do help , as does an inversion table and working core excercises as much as possible to keep the mobility, but sometimes it just decides to act up.
I'm very active as far as hunting/fishing/yardwork etc so it's not just going to go away, especially at the double nickles, so just doing anything I can to prolong until it's time for the probable inevitable surgery. Problem is I have yet to find a single person who has said that ANY surgical option remedied their pain. If anyone one here has been lucky in that regard I would love to hear their experience.
Oh....and Jack and Knob Creek on the weekends helps a bit as well.
I'm very active as far as hunting/fishing/yardwork etc so it's not just going to go away, especially at the double nickles, so just doing anything I can to prolong until it's time for the probable inevitable surgery. Problem is I have yet to find a single person who has said that ANY surgical option remedied their pain. If anyone one here has been lucky in that regard I would love to hear their experience.
Oh....and Jack and Knob Creek on the weekends helps a bit as well.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:28 pm to AUTimbo
I have never heard any good outcomes from surgery either but I have heard a ton of good things about conservative treatment. Hopefully new methods will keep being developed to combat this issue. So main goal is to maintain and try to keep further deterioration to a minimum.
ETA: If people could when they post, include your current age. I would like to possibly see what the average age is that people are dealing with this.
ETA: If people could when they post, include your current age. I would like to possibly see what the average age is that people are dealing with this.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:29 pm to jtayl71
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ALt - Thanks for your reply, I just recently found this out that its just normal wear and tear. I have three bulging disc in my back which seem to be causing some mild back pain and tingling in my legs.I have had no injuries that I can recall and am only 28. My doctor didn't touch on it much and said physical therapy should help me out but I am curious as to the long term prognosis as to whether this will just keep worsening over the years or can it stay constant with the right lifestyle changes.
Do yourself a favor and listen to episode 20 of the Barbell Medicine podcast.
Also, read this: Starting Strength
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Here's another one: Your back hurts, so you have to rest it, stretch it, go to the chiropractor for 30 visits, and then get your “core” stronger with situps and various odd-looking movements performed on a balance ball, and if that doesn't work, surgery will. The reality is that your back hurts because you are a bipedal, upright human over the age of 30, you can't alter this fact, and the best way to make it stop hurting is to make it stronger with squats and deadlifts. Deadlifts and barbell squats for a low back in chronic pain sounds like the stupidest idea that has ever appeared in print, I know. It flies in the face of The Conventional Wisdom. The fact is that it works nearly 100% of the time if you do it correctly, and that 90% of the time a stronger back not only stops hurting but also returns you to full unencumbered activity in less than a month
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:48 pm to uway
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uway
Thanks for the info. This is interesting because it is the complete opposite of what every medical professional has told me. But I could also see that possibly being the case barring you do it correctly and not hurt yourself.
My PT has me flexing my core with a inflatable ball on my stomach and it sometimes it just seems like I can't be getting that much strength out of this to support half of my body weight. But they are the professionals that treat this stuff daily.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:56 pm to jtayl71
I watched an infomercial on this and the theory made sense to me.
I’ve had one disk replacement (cadaver bone) surgery about 10 years ago and I’ve been happy with the result. I’m hoping the inversion table prevents more surgeries.
I’ve had one disk replacement (cadaver bone) surgery about 10 years ago and I’ve been happy with the result. I’m hoping the inversion table prevents more surgeries.
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