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re: Letter to the Reveille: LSU Greeks should have 'Day of disobedience on game day.'

Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:17 am to
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:17 am to
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Not because of the actions of all fraternity members. Phi delt had their charter revoked, and kicked off campus. Criminal investigation is under way. I'd say that just about wraps up the responsible parties of the death,


That pretty much sums it up right there. Or should have.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:19 am to
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WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN ALL CAPS BRO.

Got some PEEJ on him!!! FACT.
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:19 am to
Your father thinks you're stupid & a disappointment.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:21 am to
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Your father thinks you're stupid & a disappointment

And so does your King!
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19491 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:22 am to
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Your father thinks you're stupid & a disappointment.


Well this thread has devolved!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:23 am to
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Actually, the right to assemble is a civil right.

wtf is wrong with you?


You understand that a state school can prohibit a fraternity or sorority from existing on campus, right? If you understand that concept, surely you can understand LSU can limit their actions while on campus.

I'm not suggesting this is a reasonable approach, but their civil rights aren't being "trampled."
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:25 am to
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You understand that a state school can prohibit a fraternity or sorority from existing on campus, right


Sure. The problem I have is the semantics game. Whats the difference between an a group of people at a tailgate and an unsanctioned university event?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:25 am to
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Your father thinks you're stupid & a disappointment.



Posted by Packer
IE, California
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:26 am to
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No shite. Quit crying and make the Deathmobile, assholes.




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Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:26 am to
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You understand that a state school can prohibit a fraternity or sorority from existing on campus, right? If you understand that concept, surely you can understand LSU can limit their actions while on campus.

I'm not suggesting this is a reasonable approach, but their civil rights aren't being "trampled."


Don't even try with common sense and logic here. Their emotions are up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:27 am to
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LSU hasnt disciplined anyone for simply associating, yet. They'd have to have standing to sue.


Even then, if the discipline is against the fraternity and not the individual members, I'm not sure standing would even exist.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:28 am to
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Whats the difference between an a group of people at a tailgate and an unsanctioned university event?


I'm not sure, but I wouldn't suggest testing it.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:30 am to
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Whats the difference between an a group of people at a tailgate and an unsanctioned university event?



Probably simply utilizing group privileges or advertising affiliations with a unsanctioned group.


You think they plan on checking IDs of every college aged tailgate? Or just the ones wearing the buttons/attire explicitly worn to separate them from the crowd as being Greek and make sure people were aware of which organization an individual was from.

Also, there is explicit language in the rule paper indicating that groups of Greeks are allowed to congregate or dine together. They just can't be official meetings and they can't wear attire or buttons indicating their Greek affiliation.

It is a reach stretching that ruling to the tailgate however, but I suspect for purposes of practicality it applies.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:44 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:31 am to
I think my favorite part of all this is the fact that a bunch of people in here are crying about "you can't judge the majority by the actions of a few."


Odds they don't agree with that sentiment when it comes to things not Greek?

For instance: are we not allowed to judge all muslims because of the actions of a few?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:31 am to
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I'm not sure, but I wouldn't suggest testing it.


Thats my point. People shouldnt be afraid to associate because of what a public school says.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:34 am to
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Utilizing group privileges or advertising affiliations with a unsanctioned group.


Are there group privileges now at LSU tailgates? Admittedly it has been some time since I have been to LSU on Saturday in the fall.

This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:37 am
Posted by Wolverine2Tiger94
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
48 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:41 am to
If you were losing thousands of dollars in deposits for social events you'd have a different outlook on things. You may not like Greeks, which is kind of fricked up to dislike a whole group of people just because some of them might be dicks, but they are getting screwed over...
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51907 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:43 am to

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Are there group privileges now at LSU tailgates? Admittedly it has been some time since I have been to LSU on Saturday in the fall.



I honestly don't know.

But things I've read seem to indicate that there were designated Greek tailgate areas. It was this I was referring to, and if it is wrong then disregard.
Posted by Wolverine2Tiger94
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
48 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:45 am to
There is no law that says you can't drink until you are 21... I can see you, like most people, are not knowledgeable on Louisiana law. There is however an alcohol possession law. So legally you can drink under the age of 21 if you are on private property.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:46 am to
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Thats my point. People shouldnt be afraid to associate because of what a public school says.


But in all likelihood, the law protects the public school in this instance, which is my point. The fraternity members can do as they see fit, but they should understand their rights a little better.
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