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Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:34 am to Errerrerrwere
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My niece is a Chi O in her senior year; and that's the only reason why I give a shite about it.
PICS
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:34 am to Volvagia
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Riddle me this: how does the process for this have any less "due process" than the football HC suspending or banning a player from playing on a team.
I HAVE A RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE WITH MY TEAMMATES TO MAKE MY VOICE HEARD AND ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR YOU TO BLACKMAIL MY CIVIL RIGHTS WITH THREATS TO PULL MY SCHOLARSHIP!
Organizations can suspend their individual members all they want. No problem there.
It's when a state institution like LSU comes in and starts blanket suspending everyone loosely related to this situation, we have issues.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:35 am to magildachunks
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They should apply for a permit then...
they should.
But do you need a permit to assemble in your domicile?
Ididnt think so.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:35 am to TigersSEC2010
I didn't say I approved.
In fact, I said the exact opposite in this thread and others.
I merely said GTFO about an argument that being a Greek is your constitutional right.
You can do anything you want with your group of people a block down the road. You aren't being blocked from your right to assemble. You just can't do anything you want with public and official university sanction.
In fact, I said the exact opposite in this thread and others.
I merely said GTFO about an argument that being a Greek is your constitutional right.
You can do anything you want with your group of people a block down the road. You aren't being blocked from your right to assemble. You just can't do anything you want with public and official university sanction.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 10:50 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:35 am to Psychoanalysis
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Why you delete your post homie? It was a good one liner.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:37 am to CptBengal
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But do you need a permit to assemble in your domicile?
If the land lord says you can't have parties or large groups over, can you still do it against his wishes?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:38 am to tketaco
I'm not your homie. And I'd rather not devolve into petty insults.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:39 am to magildachunks
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If the land lord says you can't have parties or large groups over, can you still do it against his wishes?
If you signed a lease and it was allowed under the lease, it cant be changed mid contract.
then you have those houses where they own their own house/land
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:41 am to Errerrerrwere
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In light of the unprecedented trampling on the constitutional rights of innocent Greek member students without due process
If the author of that is a Political Sci major he should immediately be kicked out of the college.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:41 am to Volvagia
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So if I wanted to form a club called the "OT Sonic Finghtin'Baws," LSU is legally required under the Constitution to personally and officially sanction my club and all its activities or my civil liberties are infringed?
I think his point is that if the chapter decided to eat together at the campus cafeteria or in th union, LSU could bring disciplinary action against them, for simply associating together. That would be unconstitutional.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:42 am to CptBengal
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then you have those houses where they own their own house/land
Almost every house is owned by the chapter, and the land is on 100 year leases from LSU. DKE owns both their house and their land, the only one on campus to do such.
There are one or two houses that are also owned by LSU and rented to the chapters, but I do not remember which ones.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:43 am to Psychoanalysis
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I'm not your homie. And I'd rather not devolve into petty insults.
Whaaa? It wasn't an insult, it's like me saying Baw. I was truthful about your comment.
Seriously it was a clever and witty comment.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 10:44 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:46 am to TigersSEC2010
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DKE owns both their house and their land, the only one on campus to do such.
I thought DKE gave LSU their land after they were caught Goat fricking.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:46 am to Psychoanalysis
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That's a beautiful showing of ignorance and dishonesty. Are members of fraternities so far removed from reality and so insulated in their Sperry-polo bubbles that they believe tailgating and frat houses are constitutional rights?
Go buy a house off campus on private land and house your fraternities there. Do whatever you want on your own private property.
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Do whatever you want on your own private property.
Incorrect, and this is where a lot of my problem lies. If 10 members of the same fraternity are at my apartment, or my parents house even (that they own outright), LSU considers it a fraternity event.
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The fact of the matter is one of these organizations killed someone. And it isn't the first time
Correct. Phi Delta Theta had a pledge die, which is an awful, awful tragedy. Please tell me what that has to do with any other fraternity, much less sorority.
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They routinely cause harm and bodily injury.
Hyperbole much? Routinely. Name 3 other times other than this situation and Ben Wynn 20 years ago.
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Now the students who choose to participate have every right to indulge themselves in the obnoxious harmful behaviors and excessive nonsense that goes hand in hand with Greek life, but they should also be willing to accept the consequences when those actions get out of hand.
Or you know, the consequences of others who they may not even know. I think I knew one Phi Delt when I was in college because he went to my high school.
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The Greek system saw a student die.
Phi Delt saw a student die.
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And a very public fight which just represents the plethora of fights seen weekly before games.
Most by non Greeks.
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There's no reasons to condone or defend that violence.
Correct
Look, to me it's just like the statue stuff. I honestly don't care that much about the statues, I think it's dumb but it's not something I'm willing to get worked up over. With that said it created the slippery slope precisely as I thought it would. The statues came down, and then they wanted to get rid of other statues that have nothing to do with their cause, but they didn't agree with them. It's all just so hypocritical. I mean there is a statue of Vadimir Lenin in Seattle for God's sake.
Point is what happened to that young man was terrible, and there is more than one party to blame in that. Phi Delta Theta is definitely one of them, but the entire greek system is not. One organization of about 50 was invlolved, but thousands are being punished for something they had no part in.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:49 am to NYNolaguy1
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I think his point is that if the chapter decided to eat together at the campus cafeteria or in th union, LSU could bring disciplinary action against them, for simply associating together. That would be unconstitutional.
It's murky at best.
Because at the end of the day, the SECOND a greek organization renounces their charter, LSU has no power over them.
It isn't a ruling discriminating against a group of people.
It is a ruling against people who FREELY CHOSE TO ASSOCIATE WITH CAMPUS DIRECTIVES AND ARE FREE TO LEAVE THAT ASSOCIATION AT ANY TIME.
If this act is really that unconstitutional, where are the lawsuits? Them rich Greek baws should have been able to get an injunction with the quickness against LSU if there was some clear legal validity here. Why it is just bitching in editorials and message boards?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:52 am to Volvagia
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Why it is just bitching in editorials and message boards?
I didn't bother to look up the author of the editorial but I am guessing it was some BuzzFeed Liberal GDI who is just trying to stir up shite.
Or I can be wrong and it be a Ignorant arse Frat Boy trying to be clever.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:53 am to 385 Tiger
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Day of disobedience on game day.'
Enough with all the talk. Show us what you baws are made of.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:54 am to Volvagia
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It's murky at best. Because at the end of the day, the SECOND a greek organization renounces their charter, LSU has no power over them. It isn't a ruling discriminating against a group of people. It is a ruling against people who FREELY CHOSE TO ASSOCIATE WITH CAMPUS DIRECTIVES AND ARE FREE TO LEAVE THAT ASSOCIATION AT ANY TIME.
True dat
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:55 am to Supermoto Tiger
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Enough with all the talk. Show us what you baws are made of.
Yea.
At least the ANTIFA pussies have balls.
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