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re: Let's dicuss this development in Lake Charles

Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:19 am to
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:19 am to
Been in the bluff for 25+ years, love it here. The biggest drawback for development is the lack of infrastructure mainly no central sewage.

Schools are great, folks have been friendly. My main bitch here is that it has grown so much that I want to move north. Not country anymore dammit.
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:57 am to
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Westlake has a great city council right now on the other hand and are doing some good there. That golf course development was pretty smooth from start to finish for a city project.


Apparently it isnt all peaches over in Westlake anymore. My Facebook feed is full of friends 5-10 years older than me that know of some serious shite that went down with the Council.

I haven't lived there in 6 years, so im out the loop.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6562 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:42 am to
Would love to see LC take it up a notch.. If those mobile homeboys and low-income do-nothins don't like it, they can move to Alexandria where they belong... Or Pineville if they're willing to become REAL Baptists

South of I-10 rulllzzzz
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:15 am to
Same guy doing this?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:24 am to
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In your opinion is it far enough away from the less desirable areas to be successful?


I have a pretty positive feeling about Morganfield. I worked on it several years back and the guys who have been trying to get it going have pretty good heads on their shoulders. The McNeese extension helps open Morganfield up to Lake Charles. If they can get some decent national chains to buy in soon, I think they have a good chance of success. This first phase is only 28 acres. They have about 2000 acres out there to play with. If you look at future build-out, that's about single 10,000 lot residential units, but some would be multi-family and others commercial, so that number isn't exact and would obviously reflect current market demand.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:45 am to
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Same guy doing this?



Yes
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:59 am to
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They have about 2000 acres out there to play with. If you look at future build-out, that's about single 10,000 lot residential units, but some would be multi-family and others commercial,



quote:

The "Morganfield Development" will sit on 277 acres south of town on the north and south sides of the 3500 to 4200 block of East McNeese Street.

The developers said it will be about the same size as the River Ranch development with roughly 1,000 residential units. The homes will range from town homes to cottages, and mid-size to estate size homes.

"The project will also have a mixed-use component. We plan on having professional office space, about a half million square feet of retail over a number of years," explained Daigle.


Wonder what it would take for them to do something with the rest of the acreage.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 7:00 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:03 am to
I don't know what you're trying to say. I designed the master plan. There are 2000 acres there.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:06 am to
I was saying I wonder what they will do with the rest of the land eventually since they are only developing 277 acres.

Looks like the first phase will have residential construction on it as soon as January too.

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The Lakes at Morganfield, a vibrant new waterfront community, is now under construction in Lake Charles off of East McNeese street, just over a mile from McNeese State University. A couple of years in the making this beautiful 28 acre development with 112 lots will be transformed in to a lively new residential neighborhood offering large lots and stunning amenities that include ; 2 lakes , jogging trails, a landscaped park and a community pool. Home construction will start January 2015.





ETA: Since you are in the know what are they doing about the railroad track that runs through it?
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 7:10 am
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:15 am to
I'd like to know what he made with RR

Sugar Mill Pond hasn't been nearly as successful though
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93711 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:33 am to
Yeah, Westlakes City Council has been under fire here recently for some under the table dealings. Add that to the fact that apparently the Golf Club is losing massive amount of money every month......

Honestly, I think Westlake won't make it out of this boom unscathed and not on the positive side. Count traffic and the train issues, out of town workers and their whoever they haul along with them into town, I really don't expect Westlake to be the same afterwards.....I personally think it becomes Pasadena, TX all over again.

A lot of people are going to
Move out of there the first chance they get. I've seen a ton of For Sale signs around the area and we aren't even close to seeing this migration we are expecting. I think it's going to get ugly for Westlake. There's not much room to grow there considering you're bounded by the River, the interstate, and the plants that will be out to Entergy.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:34 am to
Obviously they are doing well if they keep developing areas.

I just don't see this one being nearly as successful as River Ranch either. It's going to be hard to sell $350K+ homes with burglar bars on the windows.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:35 am to
I just thought about it

I don't think I've ever been to Lake Charles
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:38 am to
I haven't seen the recent news about the council. They were doing well there for a while.

You're correct that there isn't any room left for it to grow really but I think in the long term it will manage. No doubt there will be some people that will not want to be that close to the new plants coming. Those people will just move to Moss Bluff like they have been doing for years.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:42 am to
yal being too melodramatic that area is NOT that bad except for the apartment complexes off the avenue. The real ghetto is around broad st.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:48 am to
No. East of 14, west of i-210 is BAD between the loop and the interstate, which is about 3-5 miles from this development.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:52 am to
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It's going to be hard to sell $350K+ homes with burglar bars on the windows.



If it's like RR they have their own private security
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:59 am to
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It's going to be hard to sell $350K+ homes with burglar bars on the windows.

i thought about this last night

there is enough distance from the bad areas wehre burglars would have to use cars. i'd imagine there will be limited access points, also. so they're probably going to have to have a HOA to pay for, at the least, private security
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93711 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:01 am to
Maybe Fin can chime on this because I didn't expect to see it when I rolled through there.

Have you been to Youngsville lately? I know, who the hell wants to go to youngsville for no reason? But I was there recently and noticed a ton of new homes, apartments, new roads, new business developments....all brand new and laid out perfectly.

It was relatively close to the old portion of Youngsville and I noticed there was a good portion of ghetto and old coonass homes from the 40's/50's. So they definitely built this new development a lot closer than what you're seeing in SE Lake charles, IMO. I think you're not giving this distance between where they're building it and the ghetto a chance. Personally, I think that's plenty of a distance between the two.

Problem is, all I see are housing developments. If they don't build new businesses, schools, and other anemities where the people who choose to move back there don't have to deal with the nonsense that is the Highway 14 area, then it'll never work. If they do build those extra items, then I don't see a problem. Plenty of room to do a lot of good things back there.

I wouldn't move that far back there because it's not really my area. I think in the long run, as coco said earlier in this thread, my family and I will probably end up in Moss Bluff. It's not too isolated but not too Barbe/Nelson area.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:02 am to
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The real ghetto is around broad st.

terrace/car shop is a lot worse than "around broad street"

usually to get into the bad parts of NLC, you have to go north of i10 also
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