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Learning a foreign language

Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted by JeanPierre
A brave, new world
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:53 pm
How many of you have learned a foreign language after graduating high school? How long did it take to be good enough to survive in conversations? What method was most effective for you?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:53 pm to
I tried learning French in 2 months last year and failed....
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:55 pm to
Books and CDs work ok, but you really have to be around fluent speakers and try to understand and speak as much as possible. The brain is flexible, just have to immerse yourself in it a bit because there are nuances to all languages.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98198 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:56 pm to
My friend went through the Special Forces language school and learned to get along passably in German in about three weeks. Total immersion works faster than anything else.

Believe it or not, watching subtitled movies and TV shows helps you pick up common phrases pretty quickly.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:57 pm to
I watch a lot of foreign movies on netflix and it is not helping
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:01 pm to
I took classes at the alliance francais in NOLA for a while. It was a mixture of course work and group conversations (and a lot of wine drinking). After doing that for a year (1x per week or so), I had no issues travelling around rural France and communicating the basics.

I live in Germany now and have a private tutor twice a week and am immersed in the language. Way better, obviously, but it is a lot of work. After a day of meetings in German you will have a massive headache.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:04 pm to
I really want to move to a foreign land... I applied to teach in Italy this summer but during my interview when they told me I would have to pay my way I objected. That ended the interview.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:08 pm to
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Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

learned a foreign language after graduating high school?


Spanish in college. Could read pretty well after two years. you learn what you work on. It takes 4 years to master any romance language. it takes 5 for Asian languages, because you are learning a representation system too.
pictograms. stylized pictograms.

Spanish is ideal because you are able to use it constantly in many regions.

Google is pretty handy to use to keep it up. You can read the press in whatever languages on Google.
I have spent a lot of time at work reading French and Spanish news.

This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 11:22 pm
Posted by JeanPierre
A brave, new world
Member since Jan 2015
300 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:53 pm to
Thanks for the replies everyone, they're encouraging. I am trying to learn French. I have been listening to french children's songs and watching Caillou like it's going out of style. Also, I have discovered Charles Aznavour. I have truly been missing out.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:54 pm to
I want to learn French or Spanish... although I was told German would be easier to learn
Posted by BrownTownExpress
Member since Nov 2015
79 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:21 am to
The only thing you will learn from Caillou is how to be an entitled, whiny brat.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19274 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:39 am to
My brother was always a bit of clutz with languages, but he's fairly conversant after a year in France. His expat friends probably hold him back though. He has to force people to talk French, so he can learn.
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
4682 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:04 am to
If you are in college, learning a foreign language isn't too bad. Going to class and having someone instruct you makes it easy to get started. If you really want to learn the language and work towards it (study, practice conversations) you will do well.

If you are just doing this on your own, I would buy a introductory textbook or learning system. College level textbooks that have workbooks are great options.

I have studied foreign languages in both of these ways. With the college (or class) option I learn more, and faster, because of the constant schedule and instruction. The 'on your own' option is fine, you just need to be sure to make time and commit yourself to it. If you don't you will not learn much and have difficulty retaining what you covered. Trust me.

Don't just go with Rosetta stone, research other options. There are cheaper and better alternatives.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:32 am to
quote:

I want to learn French or Spanish... although I was told German would be easier to learn

as someone that has studied french and German, i say to hell with German. French was way way easier to learn.

quote:

The only thing you will learn from Caillou is how to be an entitled, whiny brat.
amen.

@ OP, check out if there is an Alliance Francaise organization near you. My wife and I started taking classes to do something different together. It was fun, cheap, and we learned a good bit of French. They have chapters in almost every state and major city. LINK
Posted by MeetTheFarkers504
NOLA
Member since Oct 2015
146 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:45 am to
Took Spanish I and Spanish II in high school.
My girlfriend's mom's side speaks nothing but Spanish. I can understand what they're saying and I can reply with terrible Spanish.. If it was the other way around, it would be like:

Q: How are you?
A: Yes

While it doesn't make sense, it's a positive response... So they get the picture

Sorry... Haven't slept in 2 days
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:51 am to
quote:

I want to learn French or Spanish... although I was told German would be easier to learn



lol Spanish is easy

German if fricking hard. Just the word "the" can be pronounced Die, Der, Das, Den. etc
Posted by TigerattheU
Member since Aug 2006
3479 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 4:05 am to
I'm the only English-speaker in this village in the Gobi Desert. I speak nothing but Mongolian all day, and I still sound like a dumbass after a year and a half. I was intermediate low the last time I took a test. Mongolian is ridiculously hard though. I'm learning more about learning languages in general, and I think the next language I will learn faster. It takes a lot of work as you get older, I guess, but you can do it.

I could chit chat with people after about 6 months. I found that what I knew after I studied by myself just fell apart when thrust into a real situation. So it's about those live reps, even though you can understand it all at home it doesn't matter.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65746 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:16 am to
Didn't I read somewhere (too lazy to look it up) that Mongolian and Finnish (and maybe Japanese?) are somehow related? Or there's some connection anyway? Maybe it was the level of difficulty in learning was all the same as in really tough.

Hats off to you making the attempt.

German verbs.

Meh.

I sound like a moron in German more so than my English and that's saying something.

Posted by TigerattheU
Member since Aug 2006
3479 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:34 am to
Mongolian has vowel harmony, which is weird at first but then seems to make the most sense. It has base words, and then you tack on all kinds of suffixes. You change all the extra parts to match the vowels. It's the same cyrillic alphabet as Russian, and Russian looks super weird to me. Vowel harmony would be like Tigir Droppongs OT Loongo.
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