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re: Kermit Ruffins' sister asking for donations to bury her daughter
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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everything is insignificant in a school setting in the internet age if you want to look only at the surface
not really, just your bad examples. Are they applicable in life? Yes. Did i become proficient in them by my high school science classes? frick no x10.
would be quite difficult to learn what I learned in an English class via the internet. Same with math.
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the concepts i listed are building blocks that ultimately lead to the ability to improve yourself and understanding of the world
huh? say what? learning "how to cook" via science class, or learning about diets and medicine are building blocks? or help me understand the world?
I know what you are trying to say. But as i said, your examples were just bad, which just further proves my point how insignificant those classes truly were.
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when you limit education to surface-level topics with endpoints, you basically doom that student to those end points
science and history have end points. usually when those classes end. But definitely end when you are finished with school.
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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donating to sub-Saharan Africa
I've always thought that it was better to donate within your own community to local charities. The changes you make in your community will have a bigger impact on your life IMO. Plus I prefer knowing where my money is going to. In most African countries the money is taken by the military/dictator in charge.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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giving is a very complex topic. the vast majority of the time it is a bad move. there are some instances where i could see it being valid. this belief that "giving is always good" is very simplistic and can lead to very evil results (see: the welfare state and our ghettos and trailer parks).
Of course. It's not an absolute, but I disagree that it's a bad thing a "vast majority" of the time. And keep in mind that systematic programs like those you mentioned are a microcosm of the idea of giving, and that one could argue that such programs are more of a diserrvice to the ideal than they are a product of it.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:48 pm to Deactived
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Thats a pretty big decision to be left in the hands of a kid that might be around 9-14 years old.
im talking more high school aged kids. You have to fill the elementary curriculum with something, so it might as well be that. You aren't going to teach the "life lesson" courses im talking about to elementary aged kids.
In a perfect world you can teach them science and history, etc, and if they take an interest in it, can continue to learn about it in high school.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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giving is a very complex topic.
It is and that is why I give anonymously and to people I have never met. This has been a really good thread. No bullshite and calling out of posters.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:50 pm to Lester Earl
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huh? say what? learning "how to cook" via science class, or learning about diets and medicine are building blocks? or help me understand the world?
no. understanding biology and chemistry opens up the world so you can better understand things like cooking, medicine, diet, exercise, etc
but history opens up philosophy and sociology which opens up self identification and all sorts of existential analysis
you can't understand yourself if you don't understand basics of humanity. you can't learn the basics of humanity without history
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science and history have end points. usually when those classes end. But definitely end when you are finished with school.
not for people who seek education. as jones pointed out, if you give up early, it's very difficult to catch up later
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but history opens up philosophy and sociology which opens up self identification and all sorts of existential analysis you can't understand yourself if you don't understand basics of humanity. you can't learn the basics of humanity without history
You can get all this just from reading the OT
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Bring back home-ec!
Keep science and history too.
Keep science and history too.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:55 pm to Winkface
I took home ec in high school
Class full of chicks? Sign me up
Class full of chicks? Sign me up
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but history opens up philosophy and sociology which opens up self identification and all sorts of existential analysis
history shouldn't by synonymous with philosophy and sociology.
at least they werent categorized together where I went to school.
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no. understanding biology and chemistry opens up the world so you can better understand things like cooking, medicine, diet, exercise, etc
you can't truly believe this dude. Ive seen you post long enough on board to observe that just recently you've come to learn about at least 3 things on that list, and Id be willing to bet your 9th grade chemistry class in 1998 had zero do with that, and that the internet has played a huge role in your new found knowledge.
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you can't understand yourself if you don't understand basics of humanity. you can't learn the basics of humanity without history
pure bullshite
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not for people who seek education. as jones pointed out, if you give up early, it's very difficult to catch up later
Im not saying give up at all at a young age. Im saying let the high school aged kids choose whether they want to "give up" or not, or focus on something that they may feel could help them in college and later in life.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:59 pm to yellowfin
They got rid of it about 5 years before I started. Shame. I had to teach girls how to write a check. So many girls can't cook. Home ec was/is needed.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:01 pm to QuietTiger
Most people are at least killed for some motive. There doesn't seem to be any reason behind this one.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:01 pm to Winkface
My sister taught Home Ec a few years ago at Zachary High. She had to quit to raise her kids though. Now she has a side business sewing drapes and curtains. She's more domesticated than Martha Stewart.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:02 pm to Winkface
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So many girls can't cook. Home ec was/is needed
worthless without chemistry
/sarcasm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:02 pm to Lester Earl
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Im not saying give up at all at a young age. Im saying let the high school aged kids choose whether they want to "give up" or not, or focus on something that they may feel could help them in college and later in life.
you're basically creating different types of high schools
as long as the kids understand which path they're choosing, i don't care
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:03 pm to Winkface
I don't know how popular it would be these days the way stay at home moms are looked down upon.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:03 pm to Winkface
Home ec was mandatory at my high school.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:04 pm to Lester Earl
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worthless without chemistry
/sarcasm
one reason home ec has died is because we actually allow women to become educated and they now outnumber men in college and in terms of college graudation
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
What percentage of your income do you save slow?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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as long as the kids understand which path they're choosing, i don't care
im all for that. I just feel like a different curriculum could help them narrow it down easier. For some kids that isn't a problem. For a good bit of them though, it is.
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