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re: Just watched some dude get busted for cheating on a final

Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by TunaTime
LA
Member since Aug 2012
766 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:07 pm to
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Must not be a CM major.


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:08 pm to
This guy sounds like a complete tard. Seriously going the calculator route when you aren't allowed one, and also having the cheat sheet in bright yellow? Absolute amateur and an idiot. He deserves the expulsion just for being that stupid.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Who cheats is that manner in college?? I guess I'm just naive maybe, but I didn't think cheat sheets happened at the college level.


The real pros can turn an ordinary object, like an unopened Sr Pepper bottle, into a cheet sheet. Always my go to methord, where I got a DP, cut through the wrapper, wrote on it with a pencil, and then use double stick tape to reseel it.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25315 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:13 pm to
The most difficult classes were always the ones where the professor allowed and encouraged people to bring their note books, cheat sheets, calculators, and textbooks to the test.

I had a class in grad school like that. I somehow rode the curve to an A, but those tests would really shake your confidence. I bombed the first test in that class and spent the rest of the semester chasing it. You had no choice but to become proficient with the course material. Several people were weeded out that semester and I'm pretty sure it was that class that ruined them.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted by White Russian
Member since Oct 2013
144 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:26 pm to
Yeah, I've had a few like that. If you had to open the book during the test, it meant you were screwed. The only way the book helped was if you had studied it enough to know exactly where different pieces of information were and you could flip right to it.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:30 pm to
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Must not be a CM major.




It's all we did. In the last materials class, ole girl cried in front the class because on a test with short answers, everyone had the same sentences written out right and wrong. It was hilarious , we had about 8 TA's in there for the final though
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:30 pm to
hire lawyer, threaten lawsuit, demand proof.

Most universities will back down because they don't want the bullshite involved with fighting the case.

You will still fail the class, but maybe academic probation.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39444 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:30 pm to
Yeah, 3 of my 5 classes this semester allowed "cheat sheets". Even with these, I was hardly scratching out a B on the test and I was more stressed out than if I had memorized the material. Now I'm done for good so it is what it is.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:31 pm to
I don't call it cheating, so much as assigning resources...


No one in the real world says "fix this problem, and don't use any resources."
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16651 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:32 pm to
I never cheated in college but did in high school a couple of times. The key is not to be a dumb arse about it.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:33 pm to
Just read what that class was about.



Dude destroyed his career over a class that he will never need in his life.

Prereq.: CSC 2259. Credit will not be given for both this course and CSC 2280 or EE 3750 or EE 3755. Computer arithmetic, design of high-speed adders and multipliers, CPU concepts, instruction fetching and decoding, hardwired control, microprogramming control, main memory, I/O organization, assembly language programming techniques, CPU instruction sets and addressing modes.

Assembly Language?? My Assembly Instructor at LSU many years ago gave us all one piece of advice.. "NEVER EVER take a job where you have to use assembly language"
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39444 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:34 pm to
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No one in the real world says "fix this problem, and don't use any resources."


this.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25315 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:35 pm to
You know the type. You can do all the required homework, practice assignments, and notes from your research and cases (and have them all with you for the exams).....and that professor would still find a way to challenge you. It took a lot of effort on his part to pull that off now that I think about it.

That's the kind of course that forces you to be proficient with the subject matter to survive. It requires a creative professor who enjoys his work. I didn't really start seeing that until higher level undergrad courses and grad school courses.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:45 pm to
Instructors at universities are typically people that failed in the real world so they don't know that.

In the Real world for a CSC graduate at least:

You forget almost all the math you took 10 years after you graduate. (I really do not know a single person that remember even the most basic linear algebra.)

Google is your friend to avoid wasting time.

You spend years building your own cheat sheets (utility tools, reusable functions, environment setups etc)

You have bookmark after bookmark of resource guides at your fingertips.


Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:53 pm to
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So basically a jr/sr level CSC class and he is cheating? Read the outline -- if you don't have most of that down before you take the class you need to change majors/minors. I'm not sure if this is the same class I had to take, but I didn't try very hard and passed easily when I took it.


Looks like it was the Assembly language class at LSU. Quite possibly the most useless class in the entire department.

I have on a couple occasions learned more in courses I made a C in than some courses I made an A in purely based on who the instructor was. There was an Operating Systems course everyone told me to take over the summer at LSU. I did and made an easy A and literally paid for my A. The instructor had a midterm and final only with 50 T or F questions. Then proceeded to give out assignments that counted for Bonus points on those tests. Then gave us bonus points for attendance. On my final I had to basically get 10 questions right out of 50 to get an A in the course and I never learned anything.

College can be a BS waste of time and money to get a piece of paper if you let it.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7600 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:12 pm to
My dad had a classmate who cheated all through engineering. His last class of his senior year he got caught. He failed and probably kept failing because everything he knew was from cheating.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28892 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:14 pm to
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pssh, just get there early and write lightly on your desk. once you are done just rub your arm over it and erase it.


Yep
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:20 pm to
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Yeah, 3 of my 5 classes this semester allowed "cheat sheets". Even with these, I was hardly scratching out a B on the test and I was more stressed out than if I had memorized the material. Now I'm done for good so it is what it is.


I'm taking a class now and I would've bombed 2 tests if we couldn't have cheat sheats. No way I could remember all that stuff.
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:22 pm to
Damn that blows, never cheated during college/grad school but saw many people do it. College I let people cheat off me, grad school I said frick no. Still cant believe I had someone ask me for help during a test.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12006 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:25 pm to
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CSC 3501 at LSU


Is that an assembly based programming class?

If so, I know someone who took that final this morning.
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