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Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:09 am to Miketheseventh
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Your theory is for a politician not to do everything in their power to protect the constituents that voted for them in favor of protecting people that they have no loyalty to
Irrelevant.
It's against state law to block natural servitudes, including the flow of water.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:10 am to goofball
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South side of Machac Road in Spanish Lake, and most of the housing west of Bluff Road.
IIRC, Ascension Parish decided to build a school there, although they likely spent a lot of money raising it. Named it after Spanish Lake, which is the lake they decided to build it in.
Couldn’t the same be said for most of everything built south of highland from siegan to I10?
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:12 am to X123F45
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Odd that you bring up politics, because the stupidity of effectively making a bowl, filling it with water, being surprised it is wet and demanding your neighbors towel seems like a certain demographic.
On one hand, I agree that EBR has been completely derelict on ensuring that these watersheds can handle new developments.
On the other, comparing EBR to Iberville in terms of central planning is also ridiculous because no one wants to develop that parish at even remotely the same pace as EBR.
I see why Ourso is doing what he's doing, it's just kind of ridiculous to dam off an area that could be used to alleviate a lot of problems.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:15 am to CarRamrod
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you are coming off as a hugely selfish person here.
I like Rando. He’s not normally illogical and I enjoy is car opinions specifically. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on this.
He must live in or have family in some of those old houses that are built on slabs in the floodway. And that emotional connection is undermining his ability to be pragmatic and logical on this.
The Baton Rouge metro area needs a regional transportation and flood retention authority to address some major infrastructure needs that require cooperation between multiple parishes. The region as a whole benefits when all of the parishes there grow together. Baton Rouge and Ibberville are not as appealing to major employers without Ascension or Livingston’s residential market or public schools. And they can’t develop of Baton Rouge and Ibberville fail to attract employers. They can’t fend for themselves or support growth independently without relying on each other.
Iberville is prime real estate for industrial development on the river. They are likely getting the new bridge in the Plaquemine area. Ascension and East Baton Rouge are more suitable for large scale residential development. They can’t frick over each other and expect the region to grow more competitive.
There is no regional leadership. It used to sort of be Holden and Jindal, but they are gone. And neither Broome nor Ourso has the intellectual horsepower to take up that mantle - and they don’t seem to even want to. The current governor is damn near hostile to the needs of the capitol region and LSU.
I hope redistricting gives the capitol area two house districts not shared with other major metro areas. That would really help.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:16 am to sec13rowBBseat28
Let’s face it , all three parishes have allowed residential and commercial constructions in flood zones/natural water basins. Everything built between Nicholson and Highland road (off of its ridge ) is in part of this same basin. AP and IP’s construction idiocy has already been pointed out. The only solution is for the state to step in , but it won’t because of politics. Until then, this will occur every time we have a 6 plus inch rain event.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:18 am to goofball
Send his arse to jail if he won't order them be taken down. Any private citizen would be SOL if they went against the judge's order.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:18 am to CarRamrod
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you are coming off as a hugely selfish person here.
No. I just believe in protecting the pragmatic rather than the foolish.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:19 am to X123F45
That basin has filled up with flood waters from adjacent areas long before any Europeans settled in the area. You're trying to blame EBR and Ascension when they've drained to that area for hundreds of years.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:21 am to upgrayedd
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I see why Ourso is doing what he's doing, it's just kind of ridiculous to dam off an area that could be used to alleviate a lot of problems
Using dams to protect neighborhoods or even a small grouping of homes is one thing. Using it to block 2/3rds of an massive floodway is way over the line.
This guy is also demanding that the new bridge be in Iberville and refuses to cooperate or support with any route that doesn’t involve a bridge between the two sections of Iberville Parish on either side of the river. He wants a bridge for locals similar to what New Roads got, not a southern bypass around Baton Rouge.
More Regional cooperation is needed for mega projects like this, and Ourso is often a huge impediment to that.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:22 am to dragginass
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One baw with a knife can solve this problem with the quickness.
Don't even need to get that close. .17 hmr
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:22 am to michael corleone
According to historical maps Alligator Bayou road has been in place ,"blocking the natural basin" with many homes since at least 1921.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:23 am to goofball
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He must live in or have family in some of those old houses that are built on slabs in the floodway. And that emotional connection is undermining his ability to be pragmatic and logical on this.
Nope. I live across the river on Rando estates.
I'm currently dealing with neighbors who have decided the aesthetics of their yards are more important than the natural drainage.
Their indifference to their neighbors has lead to my having 80 acres of front pasture underwater.
So consider me unwilling to accept poor planning as a reason to be neighborly.
Much like Mitchel, I know my elevation and where my priorities lie.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:23 am to X123F45
Naturally, isn’t that water supposed to drain somewhere? Why are you blaming the people who built where it doesn’t drain instead of the people who built where it does? You’re being a little irrational about this.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:24 am to X123F45
quote:This is excellent coming from the guy defending the parish building dams.
I'm currently dealing with neighbors who have decided the aesthetics of their yards are more important than the natural drainage.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:26 am to X123F45
quote:you mean the people that built in a floodway?
No. I just believe in protecting the pragmatic rather than the foolish.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:30 am to X123F45
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So consider me unwilling to accept poor planning as a reason to be neighborly.
It isn't "poor Planning" to reasonably expect a flooded bayou/river drain into its natural floodplain
What Ourso is doing is artificially affecting the entire region's floodplain. We have already seen the detrimental long term effects of such policies throughout the state. Ourso should not be allowed to get away with this
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:30 am to X123F45
quote:someone raising their house made 80 acres underwater? GTFO.
'm currently dealing with neighbors who have decided the aesthetics of their yards are more important than the natural drainage.
Their indifference to their neighbors has lead to my having 80 acres of front pasture underwater.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:32 am to goofball
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Using dams to protect neighborhoods or even a small grouping of homes is one thing. Using it to block 2/3rds of an massive floodway is way over the line.
Like I said, I think it's a shitty thing to do but I see why he's doing it and I can't necessarily blame him for doing it. EBR is just as culpable in this as he is. They let developers completely fill in everything along Burbank and pipe all their runoff into bayou fountain with nowhere to go.
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This guy is also demanding that the new bridge be in Ibberville and refuses to cooperate or support with any route that doesn’t involve a bridge between the two sections of Ibberville Parish on either side of the river. He wants a bridge for locals similar to what New Roads got, not a southern bypass around Baton Rouge.
That bridge needs to go into his parish 100%.
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More Regional cooperation is needed for mega projects like this, and Ourso is often a huge impediment to that.
This is probably true as well
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:32 am to goofball
If Ourso holds to his position and refuses court orders, he is making himself liable for damages incurred by flooded property owners.
Hope he knows how to set up a gofundme
Hope he knows how to set up a gofundme
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