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re: Josh Duggar of "19 Kids and Counting" apparently molested his sisters

Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:05 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:05 am to
Not to try to dilute it, but he didn't have sex with her, he obviously never got to feel a woman before in the sexually repressed environment he grew up in, so he copped a feel on the only girls he had access to.

People acting like if they caught their son doing the same thing they would call the police is laughable.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:06 am to
They aren't ordinary in the least bit.

At an adolescent age they are hammered on sexuality being "evil" and to repress. I'm not too shocked that something like this finally popped out. I can't imagine how the Duggar family would react to one of the kids being homosexual.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:06 am to
Most states have guidelines that say a child of a certain age should not inappropriately touch another child of a certain age. This means a child of 14 could be held accountable for inappropriately touching a child of 5. The thought being that the 14 year is of an age where he knows his actions are wrong whereas the 5 year old has no understanding

Therefore all of you saying he was just experimenting are incorrect. In the eyes of the laws and/or child services his actions were not justifiable
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:06 am to
I might not call the police, but I would seek help from someone qualified to handle such things. The 2nd time, I would have gotten police involved
Posted by GeauxldnGurl
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:08 am to
If I caught my 14-15 year old son touching my 4-5 year old daughter's vagina, I would absolutely call the police.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:08 am to
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Therefore all of you saying he was just experimenting are incorrect. In the eyes of the laws and/or child services his actions were not justifiable



No one is saying what he did was fine.

People are saying that 1. it isn't shocking b/c sex is so damn taboo in that family. 2. Most normal people wouldn't go to the police right away when it is a family matter like this. They tried to handle internally and discovered additional instances and then went to the police. That isn't unreasonable.
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:08 am to
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I can't imagine how the Duggar family would react to one of the kids being homosexual.

Would probably be shunned from the family.
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:09 am to
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If I caught my 14-15 year old son touching my 4-5 year old daughter's vagina, I would absolutely call the police.

No no no...this should be handled inhouse.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:10 am to
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At an adolescent age they are hammered on sexuality being "evil" and to repress. I'm not too shocked that something like this finally popped out. I can't imagine how the Duggar family would react to one of the kids being homosexual.


They're not taught that sexuality is evil. They're taught that pre-marital sex is sinful, as are other sexual acts. They're also taught that everyone is a sinner and no one is perfect. You're putting a far higher bar on it than is actually there.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:10 am to
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If I caught my 14-15 year old son touching my 4-5 year old daughter's vagina, I would absolutely call the police.


Are these hypothetical children we are talking about? Because if so, you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:11 am to
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They're not taught that sexuality is evil. They're taught that pre-marital sex is sinful, as are other sexual acts. They're also taught that everyone is a sinner and no one is perfect. You're putting a far higher bar on it than is actually there.



When you can't even hold a girls hand until you're engaged there is a pretty damn high bar.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:11 am to
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If I caught my 14-15 year old son touching my 4-5 year old daughter's vagina, I would absolutely call the police.


When that happens you be sure to let us know.

Until then, no one with children is going to believe you.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:11 am to
I don't know what i would do but i certainly would keep making babies and keep striving to be the christian influence across the country, produce a tv show about how fricking great and holy the entire family is.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35346 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:11 am to
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1. it isn't shocking b/c sex is so damn taboo in that family




It's not taboo, they just teach no sex until marriage. Many normal people have been taught this.


Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:12 am to
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I don't know what i would do but i certainly would keep making babies and keep striving to be the christian influence across the country, produce a tv show about how fricking great and holy the entire family is.

Which is an entirely new angle to this whole story.
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:12 am to
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If I caught my 14-15 year old son touching my 4-5 year old daughter's vagina, I would absolutely call the police.

Before you tried to handle it yourself?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:12 am to
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When you can't even hold a girls hand until you're engaged there is a pretty damn high bar.


OK I agree with you that's nuts.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:13 am to
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If I caught my 14-15 year old son touching my 4-5 year old daughter's vagina, I would absolutely call the police.


where did you get these random ages from? He was 14, that's all we know. Quit making up information to support your argument.
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:14 am to
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It's not taboo, they just teach no sex until marriage. Many normal people have been taught this.

The Duggers practice it in the most extreme way. Do they have the right to do this? Of course. But I find it weird as frick that they decide to do so and then broadcast it on national television.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:14 am to
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I don't know what i would do but i certainly would keep making babies and keep striving to be the christian influence across the country, produce a tv show about how fricking great and holy the entire family is.


I've never watched the show, but were they supposed to stop raising their children in a Christian environment because their son committed a sin? And turn down the opportunity to make money from a TV show because their children aren't perfect?

This line of reasoning doesn't really add up.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 9:15 am
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