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Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:48 pm to Ric Flair
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So if you shoot someone in the spinal cord and the Quadriplegic dies from pneumonia or another complication years later, they shouldn't be responsible? What if the guy was shot at age 15 and died prematurely at 25?
No they should not be responsible. Are you kidding? In your example, the man died of pneumonia, not a gunshot wound, even if the gunshot wound was an exacerbating factor.
These are some long, drawn-out homicides we're talking about. This just opens the door for endless abuses of police and prosecutorial power, as if we didn't have enough of those already.
By the way, James Brady lived to be 73. There are a lot of people who die in their 60s, even their 50s. So you can't say that he had a "premature death." Yes, he had a hard life, but you can't automatically say that the shooting hastened his death without more evidence.
This whole thing just smells.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:20 am to maine82
thought he was coaching in R Kansas?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:41 am to GarmischTiger
GarmischTiger:
Joshua Chamberlain was the first person I thought about when I saw this thread. IMO, it's hard to say that Brady's head wound didn't contribute to his death, at whatever age.
Joshua Chamberlain was the first person I thought about when I saw this thread. IMO, it's hard to say that Brady's head wound didn't contribute to his death, at whatever age.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:49 am to White Roach
James Brady's death was ruled a homicide 33 years after his being shot. All supermarkets should declare this weekend 33% off all vegetables.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 12:50 am
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:55 am to fightin tigers
quote:Statutes of limitation exist to prevent absurdities like this. The fact that there's not one for murder greatly bolsters the point you're arguing against.
So if I rear end someone and he breaks his nose; I am charged with following to close or failure to maintain. Plead guilty, pay $150 fine and move on.
30 years later the guy dies from sleep apnea because his septum is screwed up and never sought treatment.
They come back and charge me with vehicular homicide, which is hard to defend because I already admitted guilt to the charges previously.
Best case I hire a lawyer and have to fight off charges based on his medical history.
Hinckley intended to do harm.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 12:57 am
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:08 am to beaver
I think Hinkley is a piece of shite and does deserve to spend the rest of his life in jail...however, this kind of manipulation of the judicial system reminds me of some shite that you would hear about in the Middle East...
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:15 am to East Coast Band
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But also if I were a judge, I would have executed anyone who attempted assassination on the President.
Not your decision there bud
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:05 am to GarmischTiger
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Statutes of limitation exist to prevent absurdities like this. T
Whats the statute of limitations on vehicular homicide?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:31 am to Spankum
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think Hinkley is a piece of shite and does deserve to spend the rest of his life in jail...however, this kind of manipulation of the judicial system reminds me of some shite that you would hear about in the Middle East...
This is ground zero with Clyde lewis. America is going to hell. Get your guns ready.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:12 am to beaver
Reagan Stacked
Hinkley fricked
Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:06 am to Ric Flair
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So if you shoot someone in the spinal cord and the Quadriplegic dies from pneumonia or another complication years later, they shouldn't be responsible? What if the guy was shot at age 15 and died prematurely at 25?
My guess is any family member of the person who had their life cut short would answer yes. Why shouldn't that be called a homicide? His actions caused loss of life.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:09 am to GoT1de
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It is neither stupid nor unprecedented. If complications from the wound were in any way responsible for his death, it can be considered homicide.
As it should be.
That man... Regardless of political affiliation, was only going about his bidness... He was shot by a psychopath.
The blame for that mans great life being turned into living---living--- hell rests with the psycho that shot him.
This
And i must be missing something as to why several posters think this is a gun issue. It doesn't seem to me to be a gun issue at all. If the wound had been caused by a knife or bow and arrow isn't the logic the same?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:19 am to beaver
Beaver's right. I don't think a prosecutor would bring.charges because Hinckley was already found "not guilty" for reasons of insanity as to the attempted assassination charge. If he was too insane to have the specific intent to attempt to assassinate Reagan , then presumably he would lack the specific intent to commit murder. I would think that a defense lawyer would seek to throw out any further charges on that basis....
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:48 am to beaver
Hinkley no shoot him, he is still alive....
Easy to prove
Easy to prove
Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:10 am to East Coast Band
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If I were a judge, id throw the case out. But also if I were a judge, I would have executed anyone who attempted assassination on the President
Judges don't make laws.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:10 am to fightin tigers
quote:It depends on the state. A cursory internet search tells me 6 years. In your example vehicular manslaughter would be more appropriate as you (hypothetically) weren't trying to hurt someone.
Whats the statute of limitations on vehicular homicide?
But again, the SOL would protect you. And it's reasonable that if the person died within that relatively short period of time due to something caused by the accident, charges would be warranted.
Your specific example would barely meet this threshold (your infraction being very minor) and I would imagine any decent lawyer could make it go away.
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