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re: Is the term coonass offensive?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 7:33 am to PocketAces
Posted on 12/28/15 at 7:33 am to PocketAces
Only time I ever sympathized with Nick Saban is when he got so much flak for using the term. He was in the right, but the liberal media wackos were giving him heck
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:16 am to PocketAces
Nope not offensive at all.
Proud coonass here
Proud coonass here
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:28 am to PocketAces
Only when a black person says it. They must say the "c" word.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:29 am to PocketAces
It shouldn't be allowed on this site, that's for sure. Chicken does a good job trying to filter out prejudice except for in this situation.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:32 am to PocketAces
i'm 1/2 coonass and 1/2 british...i've never understood why coonasses feel it's ok to speak with such a lazy accent. it's not hard at all to speak properly.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:33 am to Oates Mustache
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I wish my grandparents were still around to explain why, but back when they were kids and my great grandparents were alive, it used to be used like the "N" word towards Cajun french people.
This is one theory why it is offensive to the older generation:
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During the Second World War, many Cajun men served in the armed forces. When in France, many of the French heard the Cajuns speaking in a French that was both very old and in a French that had some very odd words. The Frenchmen called the Cajuns "conasse" which translates to a very low-grade prostitute. I would think this comes from the fact that, although they spoke a form of French, the Cajuns weren't real Frenchmen. Of course, the "American" servicemen heard "conasse" as "CoonAss".
I heard a similar version from my grandfather who was a Cajun that served in WWII. He said the French soldiers always gave them crap about the version of French they spoke. He just shrugged it off as another reason to hate the French.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:41 am to PocketAces
I have no problem calling a cooney a coonass. Most that I knew were registered anyway.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:43 am to Oates Mustache
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wish my grandparents were still around to explain why, but back when they were kids and my great grandparents were alive, it used to be used like the "N" word towards Cajun french people.
Because it's very similar to the N word
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Despite the insistence that the term has nothing to do with raccoons, it is not unlikely that “coonass” evolved simply as an expression of the doubly racist notion that Cajuns were even lower on the social scale than “coons,” a disparaging term for African Americans. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for the name of an animal to be used as a disparaging name for an ethnic group stereotypically known for eating that food. This is why the English call the French “frogs,” just as the French sometimes refer to the English as “les rosbifs” (roast beefs). African Americans and Cajuns alike have been known to eat, among many other things, raccoons, and “coonie” has also been used to refer to Cajuns. In fact, several versions of the “coonass” license plates and bumper stickers have included a rather graphic illustration of the animal and anatomy in question.
There are several more or less obtuse and convoluted theories concerning the etymology of this expression which did indeed have a certain amount of currency in the recent past. (One, having to do with the notion that Cajuns wore coonskin caps during the War of 1812, is way off-base for several reasons: frontiersmen from many places wore coonskin caps; and the term was not widely heard until the 1940s or ‘50s.) Some have used it as a term of endearment, even as an expression of cultural and ethnic pride in an attempt, I suspect, to take the sting out of what was once undeniably intended to be and taken as an insult, much in the same way that some African Americans use the racist epithet “ni99er” among themselves to try to disarm that hurtful word. As James Dormon explains in his book, The People Called Cajuns: An Introduction to an Ethnohistory (Lafayette: USL Center for Louisiana Studies, 1983; p. 87):
- Barry Ancelet
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:43 am to PocketAces
Although I'm part Cajun, I don't really identify as a "coonass". To me, a coonass is more than just ancestory.
I don't find it offensive, though.
I don't find it offensive, though.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:58 am to Epic Cajun
Can we get a definition of who coonasses actually are? Are all Cajuns coonasses? Are all coonasses Cajun? Are Cajuns from the area northwest of laffy coonasses?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:31 am to PocketAces
Not offensive to coonasses but I'm sure some SJW will start a movement
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:37 am to hendersonshands
Barry is a great guy, but he is an academic, a liberal academic. He loves to fight this fight that most of us don't care about at all.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:39 am to PocketAces
There are "people from Louisiana" and there are "Coonasses"
People from Louisiana are just persons born and/or raised in Louisiana.
Coonasses are people from south Louisiana that talk with a cajun accent and grew up on the bayou. It's like the Louisiana version of "Good Ol' Boys"
People from Louisiana are just persons born and/or raised in Louisiana.
Coonasses are people from south Louisiana that talk with a cajun accent and grew up on the bayou. It's like the Louisiana version of "Good Ol' Boys"
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 9:40 am
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:51 am to poule deau
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I heard a similar version from my grandfather who was a Cajun that served in WWII. He said the French soldiers always gave them crap about the version of French they spoke. He just shrugged it off as another reason to hate the French.
Im sure they take comfort in knowing that if it wasnt for men like your grandfather fighting with them, that beautiful French they are so proud and boastful of speaking would cease to exist as they'd all be speaking German right now.
And of course it's not offensive, white people are incapable of being offended.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:58 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Barry is a great guy, but he is an academic, a liberal academic. He loves to fight this fight that most of us don't care about at all.
Just because you're personally not offended by it doesn't mean its origin isn't hate speech which is intended to offend.
And Barry's awesome, for sure.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:07 am to PocketAces
Absolutely not. I used to like the term "boogalee", but it seems to be kinda obsolete now.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:10 am to PocketAces
I'm in agreement with Barry Ancelet.
Not offended, but I don't like the term.
Not offended, but I don't like the term.
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