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Is Gavrilo Princip the most important person of the last century?

Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:44 am
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:44 am
Without him, every war since ww1 wouldn't have happened. No space race, no ussr, no rise of fascism, no technological boom.
I bet most don't know who he is or what he did. Today the anniversary of Pearl Harbor, I wonder if Japan is the one variable that would have existed regardless of Gavrilo's actions.

This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 8:45 am
Posted by poochie
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:46 am to
i see you also like to listen to hardcore history...
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:46 am to
If it wasn't him it would have been someone else
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:46 am to
He's a European Lee Harvey Oswald

WW1,2 and all that stuff you mentioned happened due to Rothschild and company
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:47 am to
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Is Gavrilo Princip the most important person of the last century?


eeehhh, he elevated himself to a huge role no doubt, but WWI was going to happen with or without Ferdinand being assassinated. That was just the excuse the royals used to mobilize.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:47 am to
more important than the founder of TD.com?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:48 am to
The most important historical event of the 20th century -- indeed the past 500 years -- is the infiltration of the West by Muslims.
Posted by STLDawg
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:48 am to
It's definitely something interesting to think about. With the rival alliances in Europe and widespread jingoism, I imagine that there would have been war anyway within 10 or 20 years. On the other hand, the rivalries could have developed into a different cold war played out in the African and Asian colonies.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:49 am to
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every war since ww1 wouldn't have happened
Maybe not those same wars, but I'm sure others would have happened
Posted by CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:49 am to
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Without him, every war since ww1 wouldn't have happened. No space race, no ussr, no rise of fascism, no technological boom.
I bet most don't know who he is or what he did. Today the anniversary of Pearl Harbor, I wonder if Japan is the one variable that would have existed regardless of Gavrilo's actions.

No, his actions was just the straw that broke the camels back. It was called a powder keg for a reason. Something was going to make it explode if it wasnt for him assassinating the Archduke.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:49 am to
No, it's not. And it wouldn't have happened but for the two world wars.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:50 am to
A general war in Europe was going to occur one way or another. It had been brewing since the 1870 Franco-Prussian War and had almost kicked off several times before 1914.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:50 am to
Didn't we just do this thread a couple months ago?

To the broader point, you can't blame the match for all the gasoline soaked into the otherwise dry wood.

That fire was going to burn. The timing was the only thing Pricip was responsible for. European (eta: realignment) was well past due - the Franco-Prussian War a generation before was relatively inconclusive (except for its role as a catalyst to create the modern, relatively unified German state) - and something would have had to be done about the Ottomans - sooner or later.

The most important person of the last century - depending on your perspective is almost certainly Adolf Hitler - while a sequel to WWI was nearly inevitable - the breadth and scope of the destruction was exclusively the result of one man's vision and the death cult he created.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 8:52 am
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:50 am to
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infiltration of the West by Muslims.


Sad thing is it's completely preventable
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:51 am to
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The most important historical event of the 20th century -- indeed the past 500 years -- is the infiltration of the West by Muslims.


Al-Andalus was 1,300 years ago
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:51 am to
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he most important historical event of the 20th century -- indeed the past 500 years -- is the Roswell crash and coverup


FIFY
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:52 am to
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WW1,2 and all that stuff you mentioned happened due to Rothschild and company

The Pentaverate!
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:54 am to
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The most important historical event of the 20th century -- indeed the past 500 years -- is the development of chemtrails and their subsequent coverup


-yoga girl
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:54 am to
I actuary don't, but I may start. I was reading an alt history book and was wondering how different things would be if he failed the assassination.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:56 am to
The timing if the war though directly led to the red revolution in Russia.
Preventing that alone would have changed the last seventy years drastically.
Would we even have gone to the moon? Would Germany have been the space leaders?
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