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re: Is being bullied so big that kids give up instead of fighting back?
Posted on 11/20/16 at 1:18 pm to chewstick
Posted on 11/20/16 at 1:18 pm to chewstick
quote:
Bullying is a problem.
Maybe the way we deal with it now is the problem.
We used to be made of sterner stuff. Now we are soft. Weak.
Bullies are the pseudo-predators of the social kingdom. You take away the predators and it weakens the whole herd.
Sheep should not lead. Bullies are dogs. But without the dogs...the real Wolves come.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 1:39 pm
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 1:25 pm to fr33manator
quote:Agreed in that the problem is how the administration in schools handle it. Zero tolerance doesn't help those trying to defend themselves. Additionally, what do you do when it's word against word? More cameras may be needed.
Maybe the way we deal with it now is the problem.
I firmly remember one time when some of those assholes rigged a thing to get me in trouble with a teacher when I literally did not break any rules/do anything bad. All I did was exist. When I tried defending myself to the teacher, she called on my entire class if they saw anything to support my case. NONE of them backed me. I was in the right, and not a one had the balls to defend me. frick just thinking about that pisses me off.
I get really fricking pissed off when people say, "Well if you're being bullied just hit the a-hole, he'll stop." Sorry pal, not that simple. Never has been, never will be.
Edit: none of that was aimed at you free. Just ranting.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 1:30 pm to DoUrden
Girls bullying, especially on social media has become a huge problem. Girls have always been catty, but it's on a whole different level now.
Bullying is much more complex these days than simply a bigger kid pushing around a nerd on the playground. People advocating punching a bully in the nose as a solution don't understand the problem these days. It's kind of sad that most parents don't understand modern day bullying. No wonder it's such a big problem.
Bullying is much more complex these days than simply a bigger kid pushing around a nerd on the playground. People advocating punching a bully in the nose as a solution don't understand the problem these days. It's kind of sad that most parents don't understand modern day bullying. No wonder it's such a big problem.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 1:38 pm to Ghost of Colby
quote:All of this.
Girls bullying, especially on social media has become a huge problem. Girls have always been catty, but it's on a whole different level now.
Bullying is much more complex these days than simply a bigger kid pushing around a nerd on the playground. People advocating punching a bully in the nose as a solution don't understand the problem these days. It's kind of sad that most parents don't understand modern day bullying. No wonder it's such a big problem.
The solution is really a lot more obvious than people think, it's just a matter of the solution actually happening. The best case solution is people stand up for others. That's it. Bullies back down with a swiftness when numbers don't go their way. One guy tried starting a fight with me one time in 8th grade, and a friend actually came up and tackled his arse. Ended that real quick.
However, as hopeful I am for the best-case, I fear it won't happen. It relies on people not being selfish. Will that happen though?
Aside from that, drop or modify the idea of zero tolerance so that those being attacked can defend themselves. Additionally, as I posted earlier, more cameras is a solid idea. Less possibility for word vs. word.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 1:55 pm to DoUrden
Problem today is almost all schools have a zero tolerance policy where fighting at school results in an expulsion. If you're being bullied, they've taken away your ability to set him straight leaving a lot of kids feeling helpless
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:09 pm to Quatre Pot
Blame lawyers for zero tolerance policies
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:27 pm to Ghost of Colby
quote:
Girls bullying, especially on social media has become a huge problem.
It's psychological torture and physically confronting someone isn't an option when the bullying isn't physical in the first place. People saying that bullies need to just be popped in the mouth have become the same as their parents who couldn't understand that the contemporary problems that their children face are different than the problems that they faced when they were young.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:46 pm to Peazey
So we had to deal with physical bullying, and dealt with it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't physical bullying both physical and psychological (and usually was verbal)? They only have to deal with psychological bullying, but can't deal with it? Sounds like Baw Jr needs to grow a pair.
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If you can't handle the internet, stay off of the internet
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:59 pm to DoUrden
quote:so for those who aren't fighters, just too bad?
Sorry but when kids in my childhood tried to bully me I put up a fight
quote:For some people yes.
Is being bullied so big that kids give up instead of fighting back?
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:01 pm to Hammertime
You're kind of simple.
none of what you said follows or makes sense.
none of what you said follows or makes sense.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:08 pm to DoUrden
The majority of us have been bullied at some point in our childhood, some by other kids, some by brothers/sisters or cousins.
As adults those who weren't continually bullied forget what it felt like and forget to keep an eye out for the bullied child.
As adults those who weren't continually bullied forget what it felt like and forget to keep an eye out for the bullied child.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:30 pm to IvanCCCP
Most bullying situations start with obviously, the bully. They may attack in packs, but if you look hard enough, there's always the leader or head instigator.
Why is he doing it? Usually to make himself feel better Cuz something in his life is fricked. It usually has nothing to do with the target other than letting himself become a target...
If caught early enough, the bully and the target hanging out for just one afternoon (with no other kids around) can end it. Once the bully sees the target as another kid and not a punching bag, shite changes. Don't need parents to talk to him, come down on him or anything, just let them get to know each other away from school 99% will work in and of itself.
Boys are easy...girls are another animal altogether. You bitches are just bloodthirsty. I'll never understand the female mind.
Ever.
Why is he doing it? Usually to make himself feel better Cuz something in his life is fricked. It usually has nothing to do with the target other than letting himself become a target...
If caught early enough, the bully and the target hanging out for just one afternoon (with no other kids around) can end it. Once the bully sees the target as another kid and not a punching bag, shite changes. Don't need parents to talk to him, come down on him or anything, just let them get to know each other away from school 99% will work in and of itself.
Boys are easy...girls are another animal altogether. You bitches are just bloodthirsty. I'll never understand the female mind.
Ever.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:33 pm to DoUrden
quote:Then you were not bullied.
Sorry but when kids in my childhood tried to bully me I put up a fight
Posted on 11/20/16 at 7:17 pm to jcaz
In grades 1-5, I was in a school that loved to fight. I usually held my own, even two on one, and knew what it felt like to lose and to win, and then shake hands.
Then my family moved to a different town, where fighting was really frowned upon. It got into my head, I got soft, and ended up getting bullied by an older, bigger kid in 10th grade. To this day, I wish I would have taken him on. fricker ended up becoming a cop.
I think I regret never taken a shot at him, more than the arse beating that may or may not have come my way.
Then my family moved to a different town, where fighting was really frowned upon. It got into my head, I got soft, and ended up getting bullied by an older, bigger kid in 10th grade. To this day, I wish I would have taken him on. fricker ended up becoming a cop.
I think I regret never taken a shot at him, more than the arse beating that may or may not have come my way.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 7:50 pm to LSUgusto
quote:
ended up becoming a cop
Seriously? Stereotype: [Validated] Not Validated
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