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re: In your opinion, did OJ kill Brown and Goldman?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:23 pm to MegaTiger3
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:23 pm to MegaTiger3
yes
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:26 pm to I am GLORIOUS
Ok...Riddle me this Batman,
How does an amateur knife man sever 8 carotid arteries...well from having read either a court transcript of learned some other way...I remember at least 4 on Nicole who was all but decapitated, I don't remember if it was all 4 on Goldman..but anyway, how does an amateur do this and not get DRENCHED in squirting blood.
Enough to not just leave drib drabs of blood on himself and the Bronco.
How does an amateur knife man sever 8 carotid arteries...well from having read either a court transcript of learned some other way...I remember at least 4 on Nicole who was all but decapitated, I don't remember if it was all 4 on Goldman..but anyway, how does an amateur do this and not get DRENCHED in squirting blood.
Enough to not just leave drib drabs of blood on himself and the Bronco.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:29 pm to El Maestro de Gatito
His/their blood was everywhere it needed for it to be for it to be a One in Fifty-Seven Billion chance that he's not the murderer.
Riddle me that.
Riddle me that.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:30 pm to MegaTiger3
Of course he did, blood doesn't lie
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:33 pm to MegaTiger3
This is stupid question day on the OT.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:33 pm to OMLandshark
Did really answer the question did ye mate?
Its sorta like the Hound of the Baskervilles, the absence of expected evidence can be evidence itself...
And just because a very wee bit of blood is "every where it needed to be" doesn't explain how it got there, now does it?
Its sorta like the Hound of the Baskervilles, the absence of expected evidence can be evidence itself...
And just because a very wee bit of blood is "every where it needed to be" doesn't explain how it got there, now does it?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:36 pm to El Maestro de Gatito
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And just because a very wee bit of blood is "every where it needed to be" doesn't explain how it got there, now does it?
Yeah, the blood shows that he fricking murdered them. It says he brutally stabbed and slit their throats. How did they get his blood if this isn't the case
Let me reiterate: 1 in 57 billion. Top that.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:39 pm to El Maestro de Gatito
Ok. I get your point. But explain to me how he did it....
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:39 pm to MegaTiger3
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How did they get his blood if this isn't the case
Let me reiterate: 1 in 57 billion. Top that.
Would that be able to differentiate between him and his oldest son? Truly curious, don't know much about DNA testing at that time. I thought I remember the DNA results saying "OJ or someone related".
Not particularly saying I believe the below information, just that I thought it was interesting. And yes, it's long as frick.
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"There is a lot of interesting evidence pointing that the murders were actually done by Jason Simpson, OJ's son. OJ even retained a lawyer for Jason, expecting an arrest. Prior to the killings, O.J.'s son Jason was diagnosed with "intermittent rage disorder" (AKA Jekyll and Hyde syndrome) and was given the drug Depakote to control his rage and seizures. Jason abused alcohol, ecstasy, and cocaine as early as age 14. Police reports indicate that he was arrested at least four times (including DUI, driving with a suspended license, and assault with a deadly weapon) while medical records reveal at least three suicide attempts. A note titled "Dear Jason" that described the writer as being three persons was identified by handwriting experts as being written by Jason Simpson; he also wrote about killing anyone who hurt his loved ones and how he felt like "Jekyll and Hyde" (in diaries obtained by Dear). In January 1994, six months before the killings, Jason went to the emergency room because he heard voices of people who weren't there and said he felt as if he was "going to rage" because he ran out of Depakote. He stopped taking Depakote two months before the murders. In his past, Jason had nearly killed a girlfriend (with a knife) and almost seriously injured another in fits of rage (whereas O.J. has been accused of domestic abuse, but he has never been arrested for assault and was not prone to use weapons to settle a dispute). The night of the murders, Jason expected Nicole Brown Simpson's family to dine at the restaurant where he was working, but Brown Simpson chose another restaurant (probably without telling Jason). The murders took place between 9:45 and 10:05 p.m. Jason was by himself after approximately 9:50 p.m. and "has no alibi that can be supported by anyone else as to where he was while the killings occurred." Jason's time card for the night of the murders was handwritten, even though the electronic time clock was working. The black "navy watch cap" found at the crime scene contained animal hair and hair fibers that did not match O.J. Photographs obtained from Jason's storage locker show that Jason wore watch caps often. One (dated 3/24/93) shows him sitting with his dog while wearing a cap identical to the one found at the crime scene. The day after the murders (and four days prior to his arrest), O.J. hired top criminal attorney Carl Jones to represent Jason even though he wasn't a suspect. One of Jason's ex-classmates informed Dear that Jason was trained in hand-to-hand combat as well as field knife training while attending the Army and Navy Academy, whereas O.J. hates the sight of blood. Based on pictures of Ron Goldman's badly bruised and swollen hands, he must have struck hard blows to the assailant, and he was a 3rd degree black belt. The next day O.J. voluntarily stripped at the LAPD, and there were no marks or bruises that indicated he had been in a scuffle Dear bought contents of a storage locker owned by Jason Simpson around the time of the murders and found a knife that matched the description of the murder weapon. "After examination of [Jason's] knife by a world-renowned forensic scientist, the butt of the knife appears to match the blow/injury Nicole Simpson suffered on the top of her head." (Whereas O.J.'s Swiss Army knife and stilleto were conclusively ruled out as the murder weapon.) The LAPD found 15 separate unidentified fingerprints at the crime scene. None belonged to O.J., and police never compared Jason's fingerprints) At the time of the murders, 24-year-old Jason was on probation for assault with a deadly weapon for attacking his boss with a kitchen knife. Investigators found blood and skin under Nicole's fingernails ... along with blood drops on her back that didn't match those of O.J." (Jason was never interviewed and never gave a DNA sample.) Three crime scene experts studied the investigative material and determined that "Jason Simpson should have been considered a major suspect in the murders." Four doctors reviewed the investigative material along with Jason's records and determined that "Jason Simpson is psychologically disturbed and in need of help. Jason's psychiatrist said that "if Jason was guilty he could never be convicted because of his mental condition."
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:40 pm to El Maestro de Gatito
Is there ANY evidence that's says he DID NOT do it??????
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:53 pm to MegaTiger3
it was either him or his kid.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:07 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Plus, he was ruled responsible in the civil trial - which was basically the criminal trial minus the race baiting, theatrics, all black jury, and incompetent judge.
It wasnt an all black jury, there were two white women and a hispanic man on the jury as well.
The prosecution got screwed b/c of how ignorant people were about DNA/blood evidence at the time. The defense was able to just keep shouting out tainted blood over and over until the jury believed that the blood was handled so poorly and the test facility was so unreliable they pretty much ignored what was the most obvious smoking gun that the prosecution had.
If this case had been tried 10 years later the reliability of the DNA evidence would have been much harder to cast doubt on.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:08 pm to xXLSUXx
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xXLSUXx
WHOA... I have never heard any of this.......
But do you really think OJ would have taken the possible FALL for Jason????
I highly doubt that..... He is ARROGANT but I doubt he would take that kind of risk of his freedom..........
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:22 pm to RazorTiger30
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I thought that he actually testified in civil court to killing them.
maybe you dreamed that.
the lab work was in question due to not having control of it. when combined with one of the detectives having a record of picking on people of color, doubt.
and because the blood soaked glove, inside out, did not go on easily. a little more doubt.
If he had confessed we would have been spared the trial.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:28 pm to CelticDog
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If he had confessed we would have been spared the trial.
If he would have killed himself in the back of the Bronco, we would have been spared this trial. God I really wish he just killed himself that day. The world would be a much better place if he had. Simpson is a near Hitler level that you'd debate in your head about going back in time to murder yourself.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:33 pm to OMLandshark
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God I really wish he just killed himself that day.
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The world would be a much better place if he had
How so??????
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:36 pm to MegaTiger3
Killed them dead, unfortunately
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:37 pm to TrapperJohn
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OJ's oldest was ~24 at the time of the murders and despised Nicole. He was apparently a large/muscular fella at the time.
He didn't despise her as much as OJ obviously did. OJ did it and acted alone because he was obsessive.
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