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re: Huge BR Zoo news from Councilwoman Chauna Banks---Will Cover edition

Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:52 am to
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11296 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:52 am to
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This is not a racial issue, it's not a north v south issue; it's a financial issue. I have seen how BREC operates their parks, golf courses, baseball fields and their zoo; and I know they can't take care of what they have and giving them more to spend is crazy.


It's all of those types of issues depending on who you are talking to.

Brec does a damn good job overall. It's one of the few good things about this city honestly. I'm not big on the zoo either way but would obviously do much better closer to the interstate (south).

People in NBR want investment, they offer ways for us to directly make investment (greenwood) and it becomes a fight to keep something that they don't use or benefit from. Jesus.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10307 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:53 am to
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Councilwoman Chauna Banks gave a presentation during the meeting. She says even though the topic of moving the zoo has been thrown around for two years, she wants the commission/Company she owns to do more research before making a decision.


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This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 9:54 am
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11296 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:53 am to
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The people that are donating money for a new zoo are donating the money for a new zoo. They aren't donating piles of money for our shithead mayor and her crooks to spend elsewhere.


Oh and this. Kids aren't raising money at school to put in a bridge or fix a pothole but they'll donate for parks and fun.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:54 am to
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The people that are donating money for a new zoo are donating the money for a new zoo


Who is donating money for a new zoo, and how much have they pledged?
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90541 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:56 am to
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People in NBR want investment


Honestly, I don't think some do.

A developer recently announced he was going to build 300+ homes in North BR and the mayor, gravy, etc bitched because the houses weren't going to be in the middle to upper class price range.

So you're damned if you do and damned if you don't with them.

This being a racial issue to them is laughable
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:58 am to
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Brec does a damn good job overall.


I disagree.

If you been involved in swimming, baseball, golf, or even gone to the current zoo you can see how things are neglected.

There's more than cutting the grass to maintaining a good park system.

I can't testify as to how well they keep up the various gyms, water parks, and other facilities because I haven't been to them recently. I know the soccer fields on Burbank are kept up, but the soccer association is involved there.

If I'm wrong, I stand corrected but in my life experiences I can't say BREC takes care of their properties like they should.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:58 am to
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Instead let's fix up what we have now, improve segments until it's all modern. 


It sounds like they are spending $100+ million either way. How can spending that much money on a proven unstable asset make sense. I'm not naive enough to believe building a new zoo won't cost more, but if we are spending that kind of money either way I would rather it be in a location that hasn't proven to be a failure.

I disagree about BREC, I use many of their assets on a regular basis and think they have made huge progress with recreational areas in this city over the past 10 years.

Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90541 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:59 am to
Oh well let's see

John Doe is going to give 300k in the name of....

Dude I don't know the donor list. I was responding to the idea of the donated money being used for something other than the zoo.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14182 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:59 am to
Chauna Banks is a moron. It's people like her who call themselves "city leaders" who are responsible for BR's lack of progress.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:04 am to
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It sounds like they are spending $100+ million either way.


I'm glad to see we both think that's crazy. EBR doesn't have that kind of money to burn.

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I disagree about BREC, I use many of their assets on a regular basis and think they have made huge progress with recreational areas in this city over the past 10 years.


Fair, I'm older, my experiences with BREC go farther back. If they are doing better, I'm happy to hear that.

But in all these zoo discussions, I keep hearing how bad the current zoo is. My family goes out there some and they tell me its in a state of disrepair. Fences need mending, exhibits need paint, etc.

I read Mary Manheim's letter to the Advocate outlining how BREC has not done right by the zoo. They haven't kept it up, and they have totally mismanaged it.



Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:05 am to
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I was responding to the idea of the donated money being used for something other than the zoo.


And I was responding to those who keep telling us about all these donors who want the zoo in SBR. I'd like to know how much they are donating, and who they are.

That's all.

Seeing is believing.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90541 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:08 am to
Not really understanding your need to know who they are and what they donate.

Zoos like BR survive off people donating to them. Don't you think it's safe to say that the big time donors to the zoo live in South BR?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:09 am to
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Chauna Banks is a moron. It's people like her who call themselves "city leaders" who are responsible for BR's lack of progress


Chauna Banks is a typical liberal.

Instead of debating on whether we should be spending 140 million dollars on zoos and parks, she is spinning the argument to an us versus them and she's trying to capture as much of the 140 million as she can to spend on her "people".

At least I give her credit for speaking up, I don't see any SBR leaders doing anything. I'd hope some of them would speak up and say what the hell are we doing, and why are we wanting to spend 140 million on a park and a zoo when we have huge traffic issues, and under funded police dept., sewer bills to pay, and a myriad of other problems.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:13 am to
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Not really understanding your need to know who they are and what they donate.


Go read the study put forth by those pushing for a new zoo. Here is what they said:

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“After the findings of the original feasibility study, we felt it was critical to do our due diligence and further explore whether it would be in the best interest of the Zoo to stay or to move,” said McKnight. “Even though the Zoo is publically funded on a very small level, there is no way a project of this magnitude could happen without the support of additional public funding, private donors and other business and philanthropic organizations. In any major initiative like this, and when you’re talking about this kind of money, it is BREC’s duty to the public to thoroughly research and explore all the possibilities and opportunities presented.”


So I'm asking has BREC got all the donors lined up, do they know where the financing is coming from, and have they done their research?

Lzoo study



Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:13 am to
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Fair, I'm older, my experiences with BREC go farther back. If they are doing better, I'm happy to hear that.


I think this is where our difference of opinion lies. I am not an increase tax guy at all, but BREC is one of the few things I pay taxes for that I feel I get a tangible benefit from. Whether it be the splash pads, park in my neighborhood, Olympia, dog training lakes at burbank, or the LSU lakes, we use them multiple times a week.


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But in all these zoo discussions, I keep hearing how bad the current zoo is. 


I think this is further evidence that the location will not work. They simply cannot generate revenue where it is. BREC has shown that they will invest in assets that are actually valued by the taxpayers but you can only throw so much money into a money pit.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:17 am to
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Nobody in NBR goes to the zoo.

NBR is the zoo.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 10:17 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:18 am to
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I think this is where our difference of opinion lies. I am not an increase tax guy at all, but BREC is one of the few things I pay taxes for that I feel I get a tangible benefit from. Whether it be the splash pads, park in my neighborhood, Olympia, dog training lakes at burbank, or the LSU lakes, we use them multiple times a week


I'm happy to hear that. My grand kids use the parks too. I pay a lot of taxes for that, and if the money is spent wisely, then that's good.

I use to do baseball, how are the baseball diamonds?

I use to golf at City, Webb, Greenwood and Howell. I know Howell closed, but how are the other courses.

I use to play rec hoops. Those gyms were OK. I hope they still are. I know a lot of kids and young adults play basketball. That's a good investment because gyms have multiple uses.

We just disagree on the zoo. I think a zoo commission would be better suited than BREC to be in charge.
Posted by Monsieur le Duc
Château de Chantilly
Member since Aug 2014
674 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:27 am to
Real talk, when was the last time anyone in this thread went to the zoo without a kid? I know the zoo has a relationship with the vet school, and I'm all in favor of stimulating intellectual curiosity in kids...but this is ridiculous.

Are zoos a vanity thing for cities? Maybe I just don't get it because I don't have any T-Ducs.

Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:35 am to
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It's people like her who call themselves "city leaders" who are responsible for BR's lack of progress.

As much as it pains me, Chauna Banks and people like her aren't the reason Baton Rouge is dying. It's the people who elect people like Chauna Banks that are the reason. Baton Rouge doesn't have a politician problem. It has a dumb motherfricker problem. If it didn't have a dumb motherfricker problem, it would elect competent leaders.

But it doesn't.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:48 am to
BREC money is BREC money.

Not in the same pool as roads and everything else.
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