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re: HS Student charged with manslaughter after encouraging friend to commit suicide
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:11 am to stout
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:11 am to stout
quote:
He even set up a fake office, website, sees clients, and goes to court just to keep the ruse up.
i was a fake lawyer in a real trial all last week, too
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:11 am to runningTiger
quote:
Lots of cases like this have already led to conviction
Link?
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
speech which actually assisted a suicide was not protected.
She told him how to finish it
Case closed
Her speech is not protected
She told him how to finish it
Case closed
Her speech is not protected
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:12 am to stout
quote:
Wut? They aren't even nearly the same.
Sure they are, legally. Your actions are done with the intent to result in the death of another.
/indictedlotsofhomicides
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
i was a fake lawyer in a real trial all last week, too
Man, you have everyone else fooled but runningTiger has you figured out.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:13 am to tLSU
quote:
It's really no different than sending a hitman to kill someone,
no it's quite different
quote:
you're still going to be charged as a principle
there are typically specific laws for "murder for hire"
quote:
Did you have specific intent, through your actions, to cause great bodily harm or death?
a. she only used words, and did not threaten him in any way
b. her words did not have the specific intent to cause GBH. even if we want to get into harassment-type speech, her words were not stated with an intent that they would hurt him. she wasn't criticizing him or talking shite. that would be your comparison, and it doesn't work
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:13 am to tLSU
TLSU would tear through any of the pseudo lawyers here
Dude is legit
Dude is legit
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:14 am to runningTiger
quote:
Lots of cases like this have already led to conviction
in America? which
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:14 am to runningTiger
quote:
If someone tells you they are suicidal it is your duty to get them help not encourage them to do it
No. It's your ethical responsibility to do something, but ethics is so subjective we could go around and around about it all day.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:15 am to tLSU
quote:
Sure they are, legally. Your actions are done with the intent to result in the death of another.
Hiring a hitman is a completely different animal than encouraging someone to kill themselves. Sure both result in deaths but one takes way more involvement than the other. Just my opinion of course but I just don't see them as being comparable at all.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:15 am to runningTiger
quote:
speech which actually assisted a suicide was not protected.
that means speech as in she told him, "OK here are the steps you need to take" not "you should go kill yourself"
that's the distinction the court made
AND
the man was prosecuted under a SPECIFIC statute regarding that SPECIFIC behavior. the girl in the OP is not
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:16 am to stout
speaking of fooled, apparently some people in the audience thought i was the defendant instead of the lawyer
so fml, life imitates art
so fml, life imitates art
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Get back in your truck are the convicting words
That one step was
The how to
15 years
That one step was
The how to
15 years
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:17 am to 82fumanchu
quote:
It's your ethical responsibility to do something
Why should it be? As I posted before, I'd like to know more of the context. It may not hold up in court but I can agree with someone who says they got tired of hearing them say they were going to do it over and over. Either say you want help or go do it. I'm only taking a guess at one possible situation.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
speaking of fooled, apparently some people in the audience thought i was the defendant instead of the lawyer
Unless you have recently gotten some tear drop tattoos, I don't see the confusion.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:17 am to The Pirate King
Imagine all the creeps and ghouls that will want to befriend this broad now. It'll be interesting to see how she handles everything—maybe plastic surgery, the witness protection program and a new start in some remote part of Alaska is the answer. Or maybe the locked cabin of a Ford F-150, with the dense, lethal gas pouring in.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
no "her words were not stated with an intent that they would hurt him"?
Seriously? She was telling him to kill himself, and even told him to get back in the car when he tried to nix it. "Her words" don't have to have specific intent, she had to have specific intent.
Specific intent to kill doesn't require a "threat," it requires that you specifically intended for someone to die when you took a particular action.
This has been done before, and there's a reason for it.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:18 am to stout
quote:
Unless you have recently gotten some tear drop tattoos, I don't see the confusion.
the OTHER big case going on last week
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:19 am to jmarto1
Read the article
Kid didn't want to kill self
She kept
Texting him
Get in the truck and do it
Directly led to desth
Kid didn't want to kill self
She kept
Texting him
Get in the truck and do it
Directly led to desth
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:20 am to runningTiger
Why couldn't
quote:be the one in the truck.
runningTiger
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