- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: HS Student charged with manslaughter after encouraging friend to commit suicide
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
He stopped act of suicide (which she likely encouraged)
Called her
She had control of him at that point and told him to finish it
He did
She's a smoking gun
The bomb threat person who causes a stampede that kills a person did t stampede over the dead person but their words directly led to that death
Called her
She had control of him at that point and told him to finish it
He did
She's a smoking gun
The bomb threat person who causes a stampede that kills a person did t stampede over the dead person but their words directly led to that death
2
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:59 am to 82fumanchu
quote:
The girl is definitely a piece of shite but this is all on the dude.
basically how i feel
i've been on both sides of this coin, too, in my life. i've seen this scenario from a bunch of different angles in real time
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
You're ibviously not a lawyer
But neither am I
But u showed your stupidity about hpv last week
Maybe a lawyer can give us the legal codes
But neither am I
But u showed your stupidity about hpv last week
Maybe a lawyer can give us the legal codes
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:01 am to runningTiger
quote:
She had control of him at that point
unless he was a quad or mentally retarded, this is patently false
we all control our own decision making
quote:
The bomb threat person who causes a stampede that kills a person did t stampede over the dead person but their words directly led to that death
the person who died in this scenario is not comparable, b/c they didn't choose to kill themselves like this boy did
y'all keep creating these arguments that are not only srawmen, but are irrelevant
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm guessing there is no law that pertains to conspiring with someone to commit their own suicide?
Seems to be the case here.
Seems to be the case here.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
Severely depressed person who obeys like he was was not of own control
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:03 am to runningTiger
quote:
You're ibviously not a lawyer
obviously
quote:
But u showed your stupidity about hpv last week
what?
i don't think i discussed HPV last week. i jokingly discussed how a live without oral sex wasn't worth living
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:03 am to CAD703X
From reading the article, she did assist him in some way. I can see charges sticking.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:04 am to LsuTool
quote:
I'm guessing there is no law that pertains to conspiring with someone to commit their own suicide?
i would seriously doubt it. this is likely an old common law "law" that is massively vague and the prosecutor is trying to get some publicity by pulling a jack mccoy by pulling some shite out of his arse. compare this to a "doctor assisted" suicide murdder charge and it's night and day
if there is some law that is so vague this would fall within it, then that law should have been nullified a long time ago by a court of law
This post was edited on 2/28/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:05 am to KingRanch
quote:
If the get a conviction from what was posted in the article it will set HORRIBLE prescedent. Where does it end if you convict her for telling him to "do it".
Apparently the precedent has already been set.
quote:
William Francis Melchert-Dinkel, from Faribault, Minnesota, United States)was found guilty of encouraging people to commit suicide while he watched voyeuristically on a webcam. He allegedly told those contemplating suicide what methods worked best, that it was a decent choice to commit suicide, that they would be better in heaven, and/or falsely entered into suicide pacts with them, which he then abandoned. Melchert-Dinkel was convicted of two counts of assisting suicide, for encouraging the suicides of a person in Britain in 2005, and another person in Canada in 2008.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:05 am to ksayetiger
quote:
but iwhi. I hear she is a killer in the back seat of a car
Bitches (really) be crazy.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:05 am to CAD703X
quote:
I'll tell that to the next person who calls in a fake bomb threat.
GD that is some horrible logic
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:07 am to runningTiger
quote:
Severely depressed person who obeys like he was was not of own control
we are always within our own control
like i said i've been on both sides of this coin
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:08 am to runningTiger
quote:
You're ibviously not a lawyer
I agree. It's so silly to see SFP acting like he is a lawyer on here and IRL.
He even set up a fake office, website, sees clients, and goes to court just to keep the ruse up.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
explain how she facilitated the boy's suicide, please
it seems like he took care of his suicide himself. a very sad situation that i am far too familiar with, but all his own choice/action
It's really no different than sending a hitman to kill someone, you're still going to be charged as a principle. Did you have specific intent, through your actions, to cause great bodily harm or death? Check.
This post was edited on 2/28/15 at 9:10 am
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:09 am to runningTiger
When I was in college, I worked at a group home for the mentally ill. Lots of nights the patients would come to the office claiming they were suicidal in hopes of getting attention or some meds. Lots of times staff would respond with go ahead. Patient would then realize they were not going to get attention or meds, so would go return to their room.
I have no idea if this was right or wrong, just pointing out we were trained to not feed into attention seeking behavior. As far as the girl, I think its a reach to say she led him to commit suicide. However, she should have called 911.
I have no idea if this was right or wrong, just pointing out we were trained to not feed into attention seeking behavior. As far as the girl, I think its a reach to say she led him to commit suicide. However, she should have called 911.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:10 am to nes2010
quote:
Apparently the precedent has already been set.
quote:
On July 27, 2012, the Minnesota Court of Appeals affirmed the conviction. The Minnesota Supreme Court subsequently agreed to review the case. On March 19, 2014, the supreme court reversed the conviction and remanded.[40] The high court held that the Minnesota statute under which Melchert-Dinkel had been convicted was unconstitutional in part. The court held that merely advising or encouraging suicide was speech protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and that those prohibitions were unconstitutional. It went on to hold, however, that speech which actually assisted a suicide was not protected.
per wiki. don't know what happened after that
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:10 am to stout
Oh now stouts a lawyer too
Lots of cases like this have already led to conviction
If someone tells you they are suicidal it is your duty to get them help not encourage them to do it
Lots of cases like this have already led to conviction
If someone tells you they are suicidal it is your duty to get them help not encourage them to do it
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:10 am to runningTiger
quote:
She's a smoking gun
Scenario:
Two 18yosTexting:
Girl breaks up with guy
Guy says he's going to kill himself if they break up
Girl says I don't care. Kill yourself, I'm done with the relationship
Guy kills himself
Is she responsible?
Hell naw!
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:10 am to tLSU
quote:
It's really no different than sending a hitman to kill someone,
Wut? They aren't even nearly the same.
Page 3 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News