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How jacked up was the Brown v Board decision on desegregation?

Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:06 am
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:06 am
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Chief Justice Earl Warren delivered the opinion of the unanimous Court. The Supreme Court held that “separate but equal” facilities are inherently unequal and violate the protections of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court also held that the segregation of public education based on race instilled a sense of inferiority that had a hugely detrimental effect on the education and personal growth of African American children.


So Mr. brown filed a lawsuit not because their daughter wasn't getting a quality education where she was at, it was a matter of principle and that they should be able to send her to whatever school. Especially one just a few blocks from their home in Topeka.

The decision of the court agreed, but their reasoning is a bit different, (quote) 'segregation of white and colored children in public schools has a detrimental effect upon the colored the children', the courts conclusion was that 'segregation was defacto unequal, that simply that act of educating black children seperate of white children caused harm, serious harm', the court goes on, 'segregation with the sanction of law has a tendency to retard the educational and mental development of negro children.'

This was light years away from Brown's actual position....

Brown said that the black school was actually a great school, but that is was just a matter of principle.

The court said 'no that school can't be a good school, because segregation makes it inherintly inferior.' Court said ' your education and development has been RETARDED by your INFERIOR schooling'.....


How fricked up is this decision? How can the court make a case that black people are psychologically cripple inherently?



This decision was in 1954.... I've never really looked at this decision like that, but honesty how could it be any more racist?
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:08 am to
Go back to bed.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:13 am to
Shiny hook
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:13 am to
The ironic part is that now, many blacks are seeking to segregate themselves on college campuses and with groups like BLM.
Posted by ClientNumber9
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:15 am to
Do you realize that this is why people hate affirmative action? It's stating that black people are so inherently stupid that they can't compete based on their own merit or intellect, therefore we must hold them to a lesser standard.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:16 am to
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Go back to bed.
I wish


Have too much shite planned, and already 2 cups of coffee deep




But what's wrong with my thread?

I'm no law guru, but am I offbase and reading some of the actual decision wrong?

I think it's a bit interesting and shows a mindset that is still perpetuated today by liberals that make excuses for minorities and try to baby them or almost look at them as inferior. Pretty fricked up and a reason for the racial climate we are dealing with today along with perpetual poverty and handouts.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:18 am to
The wheels on the bus go round and round
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:18 am to
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Do you realize that this is why people hate affirmative action? It's stating that black people are so inherently stupid that they can't compete based on their own merit or intellect, therefore we must hold them to a lesser standard.
I get that, and I usually look at the people that think like this as completely ignorant, but to read SCOTUS having put it on paper in the not too distant past is a bit fricked up..... like I said, I'm a laymen when it comes to the law but I found this interesting
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:21 am to
You smart
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:25 am to
The Brown decision was, in every level, the most racist decision since Dred Scott.

Its basic holding was that black kids were harmed because they weren't able to be around white kids.

Talk to black people who were a product of segregated schools. They were usually the black professionals that went to HBCUs and the rising black middle class of the 50s-70s.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 9:45 am
Posted by Scooba
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:28 am to
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This decision was in 1954




I'll allow it.
Posted by bigberg2000
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:29 am to
You are thinking too much too early. Take a hit.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:32 am to
I was just starting school when the schools in La were desegregated. For the most part, the black teachers I had were damn good classroom managers.
Posted by recruitnik
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:32 am to
Not sure if you're trolling or not but holy shite conservative y'all need to keep a lid on it for a while.
Posted by airfernando
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:46 am to
There are many all white schools and many all black schools. It is not white people's fault our schools are vastly superior.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:48 am to
Double digit bans handed out.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:50 am to
Imagine, we've come full circle as people now want only black schools again
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:51 am to
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Its basic holding was that black kids were harmed because they weren't able to be around white kids.


Were they harmed for not being around white kids or bc black public schools were overwhelmingly underfunded compared to white public schools.

Use your head next time
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:54 am to
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Not sure if you're trolling or not but holy shite conservative y'all need to keep a lid on it for a while.


No shite.

Next topic: "Jim Crow". Was he/it REALLY that bad??? Discuss.

Damn.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:54 am to
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Were they harmed for not being around white kids or bc black public schools were overwhelmingly underfunded compared to white public schools.


This, but I read a study that found all children learn more in a diverse setting. So blacks and whites are theoretically both harmed in a segregated setting.
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