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re: How Awesome Was NASA Back In The Day?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:01 pm to TheLSUriot
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:01 pm to TheLSUriot
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Well many of those are leaving NASA because it is not going to happen as long as NASA is nothing more than a pawn in the political arena. Blame your elected officials for not providing NASA with a clear direction, the funds to conduct such an endevour, and getting the hell out of the way so we can get it done. Don't blame us hard working educated Americans, who devote our careers/lifes in support of NASA's missions.
It's laughable to me that people blame the fact that fighter pilots aren't with NASA is the reason it's gone downhill. The reason is simple: the incompetence of the government.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:01 pm to TheLSUriot
My dad was an engineer at NASA on the Coast in MS in 69. He took me with him to watch them test fire a rocket engine when I was 5. We were a long distance away and the fire, smoke, and resulting ground shaking was something I will never forget.
A few weeks late Hurricane Camille came and we evacuated. When we came back seeing all the damage was also something I won't ever forget.
The Sixties Series on CNN tonight at 8:00 is about the 60s race into space.
A few weeks late Hurricane Camille came and we evacuated. When we came back seeing all the damage was also something I won't ever forget.
The Sixties Series on CNN tonight at 8:00 is about the 60s race into space.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:08 pm to weadjust
They test tons of engines out there still. I just recently quit and they're using most of the stands still. They've built the next generation stand, A3, for testing engines at high altitude for a space rendezvous...they just need a program. I think the public isn't going to give a frick though. It's just a rocket. Space ships that take off in a giant ball of fire and fly back to earth ruined us. A rocket that splashes down in the ocean is just old stuff. Space X wants to vertically land the booster stage on land...but the astronauts would still splash down. There's no plan for anything with ample wizbangery though.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:47 pm to elprez00
Didn't you see Capricorn One? Falwell and OJ said that moon landing was fake and happened on MGM back lot CIA built
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:55 pm to blackmouth
The footage they released as the actual landing could have absolutely been faked. They walked on the moon many times though.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:11 pm to Gaston
I think the engine I saw them test fire was for one of the Apollo missions. It was bad arse.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:19 pm to elprez00
The Right Stuff, awesome movie and depiction of those days.
Astronaut quotes:
A. "Sounds dangerous"
Recruiter. "It is!"
A. "Count me in"
Interviewer asked Coop what goes through your mind during those last seconds of countdown "before they light the candle "
Coop. "I look at all of those dials and gauges, wires everywhere and think - this thing was built by the lowest bidder."
Astronaut quotes:
A. "Sounds dangerous"
Recruiter. "It is!"
A. "Count me in"
Interviewer asked Coop what goes through your mind during those last seconds of countdown "before they light the candle "
Coop. "I look at all of those dials and gauges, wires everywhere and think - this thing was built by the lowest bidder."
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:23 pm to nc14
One of my all time favorite movies
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:31 pm to GEAUXT
There should have been overlap in the end of the shuttle program and the rollout of the next generation launch vehicle. The last few shuttle launches were cancelled and the engineering and development of the heavy lift vehicle was pushed back due to NASA's budget being gutted in 2008. Had thing gone like they were originally planned, there would have been less than a year between the last shuttle launch and the new vehicle.
I've always thought that NASA does amazing things, but the worst thing it does is advertise its technology and accomplishments. The only every day items people think of when they think of the space program are Tang and pens that write upside down. Why not weld technology, high performance metal alloys, or even spray foam insulation?
I've always thought that NASA does amazing things, but the worst thing it does is advertise its technology and accomplishments. The only every day items people think of when they think of the space program are Tang and pens that write upside down. Why not weld technology, high performance metal alloys, or even spray foam insulation?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:05 pm to LSU8654722
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Or see that in going to the moon, America gained so many products and technology that make life easier.
Like what? Humans only understand a fraction of this planet and don't truly know the meaning of our existence. With all the problems in America and abroad, why should we be concerned about places we can't reach with current technology? If anything, travel beyond the moon will be limited to a select few or the mega rich. Why should anyone else care? Seriously, I've never understood what's so important about the space exploration program.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:06 pm to nc14
John Watts Young made the low-bid comment to to his STS-1 co-pilot, Bob Crippen.
John Young is the greatest astronaut of all time. There will be no debate of this fact.
John Young is the greatest astronaut of all time. There will be no debate of this fact.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:18 pm to elprez00
I've been with NASA as a contractor since 1997. From 1997-2002 I was at JSC, since then I've been up here at MSFC.
I've seen the greatest of NASA in construction of ISS in cooperation with International Partners. I've seen shuttles launch from KSC in the day and at night. I've seen the shuttle burn thru the atmosphere and been rocked out of bed at a Titusville hotel by the sonic booms. I've felt them bounce of my chest while standing at the SSPF (Space Station Processing Facility). I've personally been in the US Lab during testing and ground checkout.
It's still pretty awesome....but this administration isn't the only one to blame. The safety community is ultra conservative. It's a culture, a mindset. And that mindset hinders NASA's greatness from going past LEO (Low Earth Orbit).
Spaceflight is inherently dangerous. There has to be some risk acceptance. Without some risk assessments and acceptance...we'll remain in LEO for manned spaceflight in my personal opinion.
I've seen the greatest of NASA in construction of ISS in cooperation with International Partners. I've seen shuttles launch from KSC in the day and at night. I've seen the shuttle burn thru the atmosphere and been rocked out of bed at a Titusville hotel by the sonic booms. I've felt them bounce of my chest while standing at the SSPF (Space Station Processing Facility). I've personally been in the US Lab during testing and ground checkout.
It's still pretty awesome....but this administration isn't the only one to blame. The safety community is ultra conservative. It's a culture, a mindset. And that mindset hinders NASA's greatness from going past LEO (Low Earth Orbit).
Spaceflight is inherently dangerous. There has to be some risk acceptance. Without some risk assessments and acceptance...we'll remain in LEO for manned spaceflight in my personal opinion.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:24 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
Fear of failure. A damn shame
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:25 pm to elprez00
I have had the honor and privilege of working on every manned space program the USA has ever had. I worked at NASA in Houston for over 30 years. The early days were halcyon for sure. The last 15 were just a job - redesigning the Space Station ever 6 months for less funds.
It is encouraging to see so many of you still interested in the space program seeing as how it has been in decline so long. I hope to live long enough to see it revive.
It is encouraging to see so many of you still interested in the space program seeing as how it has been in decline so long. I hope to live long enough to see it revive.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:26 pm to VetteGuy
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USA or LM ?
I was LM when I was at JSC...I won't say who I'm with now...not many LSU fans here in N. Bama...easy to point me out.
USA no longer exists by the way..LM got the contract with another sub at JSC.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:26 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
My sister (EE Grad) has been working at NASA in Huntsville for about 20 years. I don't know exactly what she does though. Must be top secret rocket science stuff
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:28 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Fear of failure. A damn shame
Not really fear of failure. Just fear of risk. That's what makes the Russians different. They don't over design stuff. They are simplistic in their approach..and they have robust systems that work..and work for a LONG time. I mean the Soyuz and Progress have been around forever and they're still in use. The FGB and Service Module on ISS are basically clones of MIR modules.
Americans tend to over-engineer things.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:29 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Well, the loss of the two vehicles and crew really empowered the unmanned exploration group within NASA. That also had significant effect on resources ( read, dollars). Plus, towards the end of Shuttle you had a lot of folks bitching about the cost. American public was somewhat apathetic as well.
There's tons more, but that's the gist of it.
There's tons more, but that's the gist of it.
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