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re: Hospital nurse arrested after refusing illegal blood draw order
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:04 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:04 am to NYNolaguy1
I'm guessing the manpower issue would apply if they were extremely busy. Not so sure about other claims.
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:04 am to NYNolaguy1
Goddamn that is one lucky nurse. She's about to get a huge payday.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:04 am to jbgleason
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I know you hate cops
Come on now. I dont hate cops. I just wish their average IQ and pay was much higher so we dont have to read stories like this.
In fact most of my problems actually lie far above LEO pay grade at the DA/court level. For the most part these guys just do what they are told. My beef isnt with them.
From the same link, this seems to be the problem...
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Payne — who says he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, not punish him — said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:32 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:09 am to NolaAg04
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OP should change title, as far as I can tell it wasn't illegal it was just against Hospital policy. Hospital policy doesn't Trump the law,so while it's dumb to arrest the nurse I could totally see obstruction of justice.
Maybe some of the legal eagles can throw me a bone here, but didnt Birchfield v North Dakota establish a warrant, probable cause, or consent before drawing blood? The officer in the video acknowledges he has none of those...
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:11 am to NYNolaguy1
failure to comply. Shoulda tased her arse.
hope she has to make the cop sammiches as part of her sentencing.
hope she has to make the cop sammiches as part of her sentencing.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:11 am to NolaAg04
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OP should change title, as far as I can tell it wasn't illegal it was just against Hospital policy. Hospital policy doesn't Trump the law,so while it's dumb to arrest the nurse I could totally see obstruction of justice.
1. There was no warrant.
2. The patient wasn't under arrest.
3. The patient was unconscious.
The victim in this case was a driver injured in a crash that was caused by a police chase. They wanted his blood sample to prepare a comparative negligence defense to try and get out of a lawsuit that they thought would be forthcoming. Congrats on being an authoritarian tool.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:12 am to Salmon
The patient was not even a suspect, a criminal running from police hit him.
Sidenote:
Sidenote:
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Wubbels, an Alpine skier who competed in the Winter Olympics in 1998 and 2002, when her last name was Shaffer, has worked as a nurse at University Hospital since 2009.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:12 am to tigerinthebueche
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failure to comply. Shoulda tased her arse.
hope she has to make the cop sammiches as part of her sentencing.
I am not sure this will turn out that way...
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:13 am to NolaAg04
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NolaAg04
What third rate law school did you drop out of your 1L year?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:13 am to NolaAg04
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OP should change title, as far as I can tell it wasn't illegal it was just against Hospital policy. Hospital policy doesn't Trump the law,so while it's dumb to arrest the nurse I could totally see obstruction of justice.
Cop had no warrant and the person had not been put under arrest which means not mirandized.
The blood sample would have been thrown out as evidence anyway.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:14 am to LucasP
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win stupid prices.
What you did there, I see it.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:14 am to NYNolaguy1
We need to get these guys more military equipment so they enforce the law as they see fit, maga.
The blood draw results would have been thrown out anyway which doubles down on the stupid.
The blood draw results would have been thrown out anyway which doubles down on the stupid.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:15 am to Lakeboy7
No blood results and we're bringing in the tank!
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:16 am to NolaAg04
A significant portion of police are barely literate tools. I'm shocked that they don't understand anything other than brute force.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:16 am to NYNolaguy1
I hope that nurse sues the living shite out of the officer and the police department.
That is infuriating.
That is infuriating.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:17 am to NYNolaguy1
Piece of shite pig on a power trip.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:19 am to BobRoss
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They also said admin was on it's way.
it's funny, as soon as he heard that he decided it was time for her to go to jail.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:19 am to Epic Cajun
That's normally done.
When a crash results in a death or serious injury, blood is always drawn.
There is nothing illegal about it.
People may not like it but it's how the process is done.
When a crash results in a death or serious injury, blood is always drawn.
There is nothing illegal about it.
People may not like it but it's how the process is done.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:20 am to Salmon
sigh
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:21 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:21 am to NYNolaguy1
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I am not sure this will turn out that way...
I see the nurse getting a nice check out of this. Maybe not "dragged off my American Airlines flight" money, but a pretty good bump. Lawyers will make a nice chunk too.
Detective will be back in uniform patrol if not fired. Dude pretty much shite the bed.
Unless there is more to the story- like cop knew the nurse knows the suspect and was trying to cover the guy. Regardless, the cop seems to have really screwed up.
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