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re: Home prices are now contracting at levels only seen 2 times

Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
3581 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:36 pm to
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Sure we can blame the government, but how about some blame on everyone buying houses at record pace over the last three years and driving up home prices and rent?




Be carful, you are gonna make many on this board realize how lazy they are when they just blame everything on the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave… as tempting and as ignorant and as lazy as it i is to do that, many losers still do it to avoid having to look in the mirror, or looking at their local elected officials .
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18061 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

She just got her Tax bill and her house is valued at $450,000...

The correlation between assessed tax value and market price is tenuous at best.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
7490 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:39 pm to
biden's economic policies are killing middle class and poor folks bank accounts
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4228 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:54 pm to
An item for sale is only worth what someone is willing to pay for said item.
Lots of people out there make not so smart choices.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31309 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Prices in Houston are still going higher.


I’ve been tracking it and I think that’s also the case here.

ETA: yup, still rising, quickly

This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27020 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Prices in Houston are still going higher. It’s crazy what my neighbors continue to get for their homes


Same here. On the one hand it’s nice to know you’ve got something of value. But the other, when does the bubble pop? Or a national trend like the OP hit here? Also, if they kept going up that tax nut gets bigger and bigger.

Our house has easily doubled in value. In the present market.

Would be nice to sell and store shite then live in apartment for 2 years to wait it out. Sweep in when it collapsed. If it doesn’t collapse though I’m living in an apartment until I move into a senior living apartment. Lol
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31309 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Would be nice to sell and store shite then live in apartment for 2 years to wait it out.


That’s what we’re currently doing.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13322 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Home prices are now contracting at levels only seen 2 times. Both ended in deep recessions

Does this mean I'll be able to build a shop at normal prices?
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45851 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:26 pm to
Just wait until Biden gets mortgage rates up to 12% - 16% like during the Carter administration.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7103 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:34 pm to
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I think 5% will be the floor which is a great rate but still cools things off from the highs we have seen.


There’s a lot of people sitting on sidelines right now specifically Millennials and Gen Z who are either living in mommy and daddy’s basement or renting. Rates going from 7.x% to 5% even if it takes 18 months is just going to cause another buying frenzy which will elevate demand and prices for current homeowners who might consider selling but most have 3% or so rates so they won’t and it is going to keep supply low which is going to keep prices high. There’s no winning solution here for renters right now sans massive job losses. That’s it. Supply is so low these people are screwed whether rate is 7.x% or 5%.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45851 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:34 pm to
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DFW isn't seeing it.
Not true. My "value" has dropped 20% in the last year.

Example: neighbor's home two doors down: 2.5 years ago, no pool, 3 car garage, 4 br, 3 ba, 3450 sf sold for $825k.

A year ago, the house next to me, also same size home, no pool, but on a larger cornet lot, sold for $725k.

The value of my home, 325 more sf, with a pool, culdesac lot, custom workshop, was valued at $915k 2.5 years ago. Now it's down to $725.

That's a drop of 20% in value.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1260 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Does this mean I'll be able to build a shop at normal prices?




no. Most materials are still high along with labor.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28322 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Yes I understand all markets are local but national trends still mean something


They do, but demand areas remain strong.

Even n certain decent parts of Louisiana, 500K houses have multiple offers at ask or above, before the open house concludes.


Posted by Heinrich H
Member since Sep 2023
145 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:56 pm to
biden's economic policies are killing middle class and poor folks bank accounts

oh, it's not just his economy.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9571 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:58 pm to
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2008 had a spike but it was more gradual and over a few years. 2004-2007 there was a spike.

I’d be curious to see the same data with a bit more smoothing applied.

The graph doesn’t say, but it looks like it’s something like quarterly YoY changes. So we’re talking about.. ~7 quarters of very high price growth followed by 1 quarter of very high price decline? At first glance that strikes me more as volatility than a true correction, but I realize there are other metrics pointing in the same direction.

I don’t think predicting recession at this point is exactly going out on a limb, in any case. It seems likely that the bubble has to burst at some point.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Be carful, you are gonna make many on this board realize how lazy they are when they just blame everything on the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave…


people might take you seriously if we didn’t remember your constant crying/bitching/moaning over the last occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
6313 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:06 pm to
Selfishly, as someone looking to buy in Raleigh, NC I could use some of this.

Prices haven’t budged
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6546 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:13 pm to
Assuming you live in Fort Bend County, you better pay real close attention to the statement you're going to get from the assessor. In 2022, they assessed my value 40% higher than in 2021. While they can only raise your assessed value 10% more year over year, they made clear what my tax bill was likely to be in 2026.

And yes, I've used a lawyer to dispute for the last five years.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126965 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:18 pm to
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rates up to 12% - 16% like during the Carter administration.
You misspelled “Reagan.”
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12085 posts
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:21 pm to
And they’re still high as giraffe gash
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