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re: HOA- Annual Dues increase
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:22 am to LSUEEAlum
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:22 am to LSUEEAlum
I have another HOA question. When I bought my house I was not aware of a HOA. In 2011 there was a neighborhood meeting and I learned of an HOA although it had not been active for some time. The 2011 meeting was the only time I heard of the HOA. Last week I received a letter stating that the new HOA board was reactivating the HOA. They say dues are mandatory. Can someone reactivate the HOA without consent from the neighborhood?
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:25 am to yellowfin
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we do that with price
We do as well, see my location.
That still doesn't stop some eclectic wealthy neighbor from putting/painting/etc estheticly hideous in thier yard.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 8:31 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:29 am to tracytiger
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They can not raise the dues without a vote from all homeowners, must be 50% or more agreeing to raise it, the bylaws would have to be changed by a lawyer as well.
They can't raise the dues just because they want to.
This is not correct. Many HOA boards have the ability to assess annual dues without homeowner input. It depends on the covenants & restrictions. My subdivision is like this. Thankfully our HOA is not a bunch asses and these things are discussed at meetings. The problem is most homeowner refuse to attend the meetings yet they still find a way to bitch after the fact b/c they weren't consulted on every matter. If you don't like it, elect a new board.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:29 am to yellowfin
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we do that with price
That's what I was thinking, if you live in an expensive neighborhood, you can eliminate trash based upon home prices.
ETA: I think the majority of HOA problems come from ~250k subdivisions.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 8:31 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:30 am to ColdDuck
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ColdDuck
He mad.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:31 am to JOJO Hammer
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I have another HOA question. When I bought my house I was not aware of a HOA. In 2011 there was a neighborhood meeting and I learned of an HOA although it had not been active for some time. The 2011 meeting was the only time I heard of the HOA. Last week I received a letter stating that the new HOA board was reactivating the HOA. They say dues are mandatory. Can someone reactivate the HOA without consent from the neighborhood?
Go to the courthouse and get an official copy of the restrictions that are filed. There are usually provisions in the restrictions stating how long the restrictions will be in place. Most that I've seen are active for 25 years after being filed and the HOA has to re-file something with the courthouse every 10 years after that.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:32 am to Epic Cajun
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That's what I was thinking, if you live in an expensive neighborhood, you can eliminate trash based upon home prices.
not true...there are trashy people with money don't kid yourself.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 8:34 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:46 am to Tigerpaw123
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Negative.....completely depends on how the bylaws are written
Correct...some HOA bylaws state majority of homeowners living in the subdivison and some state majority atteneding the meeting. Most will be majority atteneding the HOA meeting. Sucks to be in an place where the developer still has contol of the HOA. I would be willing to bet since the the developemnt is still 50% complete he has not turned the HOA over to the owners in the subdivion. Most developers have clauses in thier HOA that they don't turn over until a certain% of lots are sold.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 8:47 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:19 am to Epic Cajun
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That's what I was thinking, if you live in an expensive neighborhood, you can eliminate trash based upon home prices.
ETA: I think the majority of HOA problems come from ~250k subdivisions.
Absolutely not. The more money people have the more they think they can do what they want and screw you and what anyone else in the neighborhood thinks about it.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:19 am to ColdDuck
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ColdDuck
I know how you feel. I've been dumb enough in the past to be involved with HOAs and architectural committees. My next house will be on acreage so I don't have to deal with that BS. There are a few constants that seem true for every neighborhood:
- Homeowners get furious when you notify them that they are violating a restriction. It doesn't matter how small or big, they think they deserve a waiver and more importantly, the HOA members should sacrifice their personal time to visit with them face to face so they can explain why their situation is unique.
- only 2/3 or less of homeowners will pay their dues by the second notice. 10% think they shouldn't have to pay them for various reasons. And the rest think a board member should come pick up the dues personally from their house. Some will try to convince everyone they paid them, but the HOA must have lost it (same people, every year). The Treasurer is definitely the shittiest position on the HOA board.
- the loudest homeowners bitching usually never volunteer their time to anything in the neighborhood.
- there is always some old folks bitching about kids riding their bikes in the street and teenagers speeding and/or not stopping at the stop signs. Not sure why these people think the HOA has the ability to enforce laws on the street. For the record, the fastest vehicles in the neighborhoods are usually the school buses and soccer moms.
- There are some homeowners that will always nag the HOA b/c they enforce the restrictions too tough.
- There are some homeowners that will always nag the HOA b/c they don't enforce the restrictions enough.
- Homeowners think the HOA is the first and only option to settle disputes with their neighbor.
- There are some neighbors that bitch at the architectural committee b/c they allow houses that look too much alike and they don't want to live in a cookie cuter neighborhood.
- these same people usually bitch when a house is looks too different.
What did I miss?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:31 am to ashy larry
Pretty much everything listed could, and should, be resolved without an HOA.
However, most people just want them in place to make their neighbor do something to their liking. Use the HOA as a passive aggressive tool instead of just talking to the neighbor or keeping their mouth shut.
However, most people just want them in place to make their neighbor do something to their liking. Use the HOA as a passive aggressive tool instead of just talking to the neighbor or keeping their mouth shut.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:39 am to fightin tigers
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Pretty much everything listed could, and should, be resolved without an HOA.
that means you have to rely on neighbors common sense and good nature. Without a law/policy preventing it you have no leg to stand on.Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:42 am to Restomod
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that means you have to rely on neighbors common sense and good nature. Without a law/policy preventing it you have no leg to stand on.
You just said the HOA can't enforce most things anyway
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:09 am to tigeraddict
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most HOAs are run my the developer until either a set number of lots are sold or all lots are sold. at that point it is turned over to the residents, where board member elections are held and the home owners can vote to change bylaws and dues. until then the developer is the sole voter, IE the dictator, of the HOA
This is the exact situation in CE
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:25 am to fightin tigers
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You just said the HOA can't enforce most things anyway
I never said that...and they can and will enforce rules and fines for non-compliance.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:25 am to Spankum
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fwiw, sounds like you'd better start attending the meetings
This right here!
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:28 am to LSUEEAlum
quote:I seriously doubt this is true.
There are no meetings. This was done with no input from the residents.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:31 am to sec13rowBBseat28
It is absolutely true. See above post. The developer is still in command, dictator if you will. Guess all we can do is wait until he gives the HOA to the residents.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:51 am to ashy larry
quote:This is exactly why our HOA just recently voted to hire a management firm to run the HOA. I think somewhere around 95% of the homeowners voted to raise the dues another $100 to make this happen. Our HOA has done an outstanding job, but it shouldn't be left up to them to enforce the rules and regulations of the HOA.
know how you feel. I've been dumb enough in the past to be involved with HOAs and architectural committees. My next house will be on acreage so I don't have to deal with that BS. There are a few constants that seem true for every neighborhood:
- Homeowners get furious when you notify them that they are violating a restriction. It doesn't matter how small or big, they think they deserve a waiver and more importantly, the HOA members should sacrifice their personal time to visit with them face to face so they can explain why their situation is unique.
- only 2/3 or less of homeowners will pay their dues by the second notice. 10% think they shouldn't have to pay them for various reasons. And the rest think a board member should come pick up the dues personally from their house. Some will try to convince everyone they paid them, but the HOA must have lost it (same people, every year). The Treasurer is definitely the shittiest position on the HOA board.
- the loudest homeowners bitching usually never volunteer their time to anything in the neighborhood.
- there is always some old folks bitching about kids riding their bikes in the street and teenagers speeding and/or not stopping at the stop signs. Not sure why these people think the HOA has the ability to enforce laws on the street. For the record, the fastest vehicles in the neighborhoods are usually the school buses and soccer moms.
- There are some homeowners that will always nag the HOA b/c they enforce the restrictions too tough.
- There are some homeowners that will always nag the HOA b/c they don't enforce the restrictions enough.
- Homeowners think the HOA is the first and only option to settle disputes with their neighbor.
- There are some neighbors that bitch at the architectural committee b/c they allow houses that look too much alike and they don't want to live in a cookie cuter neighborhood.
- these same people usually bitch when a house is looks too different.
What did I miss?
I'll never understand why people move into a neighborhood with an HOA, and then bitch about the fees, rules, and regulations.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:36 am to LSUEEAlum
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Exactly. If we had a pool and a park I would gladly pay $50 a month. That's what I was paying by the way. Now it's more and we don't have shite except 3 lakes. And they are small and I don't even live on one.
]Management company is community management, llc
Well that explains everything. Community Management llc is the most unethical, incompetent, fraudulent, and useless HOA management companies that I have ever dealt with. I had many problems with them when I lived in Baton Rouge and they managed my neighborhood's HOA. Jeff Harman, who is the CEO, is a lying POS. There was no doubt in my mind that they were cooking the books and stealing money. I lived there for 4 years and we never had an HOA meeting. The only thing they did was email the residents a newsletter with useless information and looked like it was written by a kindergarten class.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 12:06 pm
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