re: Girlfriend of Minnesota victim with new video.

Amazing the amount of people that know exactly what to do in every situation.

After reading reports, opinions and watching videos, this is what I gather:

This wasn't a bad guy. He didn't have a long rap sheet. In fact, he he could qualify for a CCR in a state like Minnesota. He worked in a school. He had gone through extensive background checks.

He might not have been highly educated, but apparently he married the mother of his child and he was providing for them as best he could -- and a better than most.

This on the surface indicates he was good man who should have no reason the fear the law.

He was pulled over for a busted tail light.

This should have been a courtesy stop.

I've been pulled over and when they ran my tag and it came back clean (I assume) the cop walked to the door and said something to the effect of, "Just wanted to let you know you've got a tail light out. Probably want to get that fixed."

No warning. No asking for ID. No problem. Just a have a good day.

This man had no reason to expect any kind of bad outcome when he was pulled over. He was a good guy. He wasn't a criminal.

Did that comfort cause his death? I don't know. Did that the fact he thought he had nothing to fear end up with him bleeding out in his front seat?

But we're not supposed to be afraid of the police. They aren't supposed to be afraid of us...

I'd like to see the officer's service record, similar to the Tamir Rice killing.

But you know what? We can go back and forth all day about what should have happened, how the cop should have approached the situation, how this man should have gone about informing the officer of the fact he has a legal weapon on his hip, and all the other minutiae.

The only thing I gather from this, is there was no way that man was pulling his weapon to shoot that officer. And I don't think the officer was justified into quick drawing and shooting at least four times into an occupied vehicle with an infant in the back seat. And don't tell me he didn't look in the back seat when he walked by.

It was a fricking busted taillight.

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Because she isn't an expert on police weaponry?

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The fact that she used the term "machine gun" tells me she is simply trying to get a rise out of people. Of course no one had a machine gun.

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it doesn't mean she is lying about the main details in and of itself

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Doesn't help me believe her. It's already shocking enough that the first thing she did after the shooting was open up a cell phone and start videotaping. She wasn't even crying. She obviously didn't feel very threatened by the police officer, and if he was trying to murder someone she wouldn't be alive.

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The fact that she used the term "machine gun" tells me she is simply trying to get a rise out of people. Of course no one had a machine gun.

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You've probably got infinitely more gun knowledge than her. I'm not sure why 'machine gun' is so appalling to some of you, especially coming from someone with zero working knowledge on the subject. If someone had an AR-15 in her back it just as soon be a machine gun to the lay person, especially if the officer had it accessorized to the hilt.

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If someone had an AR-15 in her back it just as soon be a machine gun to the lay person, especially if the officer had it accessorized to the hilt.

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The ironic part is that depending on how the receiver has been modified that AR could be considered a machine gun.

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No. I'm trying to point out how fricking dumb it is to think this whole thing is justifiable because they may/may not have toked a J OR to paint her/him as bad people or parents because they may/may not have toked a J

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First off she doesn't just toke J's, she tokes them with her kid in the car and then posts the pictures on social media. So uh yeah I'd say that's bad parenting on multiple levels.

More importantly, anyone that smokes knows that weed makes a lot of people very paranoid. I don't think its that unbelievable that this guy that was shot was normally a good guy that got paranoid and acted foolish when he remembered he was carrying a gun as the cop walked up.

I've had friends that were high just take off running when they saw a cop, for no reason at all outside of them being high as a kite and paranoid.

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The ironic part is that depending on how the receiver has been modified that AR could be considered a machine gun.

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I just don't understand why it is such a big deal to some people on here. It would be one thing if the media ran with it, but if a lady who is less than 24 hours removed from having her boyfriend shot to death next to her in the car calls the gun in her back a machine gun, her credibility shouldn't be null and void.

If my wife came home and told me a story where the cops put a machine gun to her back, I wouldn't shrug off the whole event because she's not up to speed on police weaponry, particularly when you consider the way some long guns look these days.

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How about we lower out expectations for cops and not expect them to act perfect when there is a gun involved?

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As long as we prosecute them fairly, that is fine with me. If you screw up and kill someone you should face the consequences regardless of your shite pay. That is my point.

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How about we lower out expectations for cops and not expect them to act perfect when there is a gun involved?

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Ok, I'm fine with that. Then they no longer get sidearms until a certain number of years. Their testimony is no longer of greater worth than the average citizen in a court of law.

What else would you take away with your "lowered expectations"?

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did. It's still a completely bizarre reaction.

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1. People aren't robots.

2. People grieve differently

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Well, glad we cleared up that crying is the best way to judge how threatened someone feels.

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Her boyfriend was just shot and killed in front of her and his "killer" still had a gun trained on the vehicle. You telling me crying wouldn't be a normal response here?