re: Getting a 2nd bachelor's at LSU

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1. Bachelor's degree means nothing. School loans are like candy. Everyone gets them now. Spend enough time and you get a degree. Meaningless and worthless accomplishment.

2. Bachelor's degree means you know very little about nothing. Again, no respect given.

3. Return on investment is on par with #1 and #2. For 1/4 the money you can go votech and make twice as much per year.

4. Second bachelors on resume tells me: too dumb to get it right the first time, or too lazy to make things work so went back to school for the easy life for another few years. It does not say 'thirst for knowledge'.

5. College has fast become a total drain on resources, not providing people a good return on their money or their time, and campuses are nothing more than SJW conventions for the weak and the useless. Why associate yourself with that? What do you think employers are thinking when you show them you made lateral moves in academia, and then they see a bunch of morons on fake hunger strikes, wanting to evaluate professors on their microaggressions, and so forth? Two bachelor's does not scream 'hire me, hire me'. It screams 'throw my application in the trash'.

Bare minimum, you need a masters to show you have some sort of seriousness about your education. And not the mail it in MBA type programs. A real curriculum. Better still is a PhD but even the jump from masters to PhD may not be worth the money and time spent. Worse, because of the downturn in quality, there are plenty of people with no formal education that outperform those with 3 or 4 bachelor's degrees.

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That's a lot of dumb.

A degree in specific fields is 100% necessary. If someone wants to go into accounting, audit etc., which can provide a great ROI, an accounting degree is not only a great investment, it's a necessary one.

Do you really think telling someone who wants to go into accounting and audit that they should go to votech to be a plumber or electricians makes any sense at all? Do you really think employers who require a degree think a degree is worthless?

Good grief.

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1. Bachelor's degree means nothing. School loans are like candy. Everyone gets them now. Spend enough time and you get a degree. Meaningless and worthless accomplishment.

2. Bachelor's degree means you know very little about nothing. Again, no respect given.

3. Return on investment is on par with #1 and #2. For 1/4 the money you can go votech and make twice as much per year.

4. Second bachelors on resume tells me: too dumb to get it right the first time, or too lazy to make things work so went back to school for the easy life for another few years. It does not say 'thirst for knowledge'.

5. College has fast become a total drain on resources, not providing people a good return on their money or their time, and campuses are nothing more than SJW conventions for the weak and the useless. Why associate yourself with that? What do you think employers are thinking when you show them you made lateral moves in academia, and then they see a bunch of morons on fake hunger strikes, wanting to evaluate professors on their microaggressions, and so forth? Two bachelor's does not scream 'hire me, hire me'. It screams 'throw my application in the trash'.

Bare minimum, you need a masters to show you have some sort of seriousness about your education. And not the mail it in MBA type programs. A real curriculum. Better still is a PhD but even the jump from masters to PhD may not be worth the money and time spent. Worse, because of the downturn in quality, there are plenty of people with no formal education that outperform those with 3 or 4 bachelor's degrees.

So, that's how it's a 100% waste of money.

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Weird, my bachelor's degrees, plus professional certification that could only be accessed with the formal education I received, qualify me for a very high paying job. You don't know shite

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Damn, do I still have a degree? When does it expire?

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clearly you're missing the point. I'm saying you can't use an english 1001 credit from 1973 for your second undergrad in 2015.

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If you don't own your own business then I would bet the rest of the money I will ever make with my B.S. that your boss has a college degree.

Of course there is always an exception. I have many friends that are well off without that piece of paper. I know a lot more better off with it however and so do you.

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Yeah, the available evidence shows that people who have college degrees earn, on average, significantly more than those without college degrees. There are always exceptions, but it's clear that getting a college degree is often beneficial in obtaining higher paying jobs.

Just look at healthcare. TONS of high paying jobs, and virtually all of them require a degree. You also get great benefits and job security.

Too much dumb to quantify..


The stats disagree with your view, shockingly

I have worked all kinds of jobs from straight manual labor to skilled labor to office work. Coming out of college, I was the only one of our graduates to get a job in my specialized field. I got serious job offers from 3 different companies, and I was the only one to do so. I took the one that I wanted to do most, but unfortunately market conditions didn't support it, and my salary reflected that. That salary, and potential growth, wouldn't have been able to support myself and a future family, so I had to make a change. I probably could've gone with one of the other companies, but I didn't want to be stuck in an office 50% of the time, and I didn't want to live in a garbage city.

In that career, the only big money to be made is to buy up land and resources, and I didn't want to borrow the money from my parents. There was no way possible that I could save up the money to do so with my salary at the time.

I could probably go back and do it again now that the market has corrected itself, but I chose to get a ME degree instead because it provides the stability and potential salary growth that I want. I had to make that decision.

Is it a waste? Absolutely not
Would I rather be doing my original choice? Absolutely so
Would I have financial stability if I did? Unlikely


Some there's your 100% waste, right?


Eta: We only had one skilled laborer out of probably 20 that we used as a contractor who made over $150k. He was extremely good at what he did, and was in high demand, so we had to pay to basically keep him on retainer and be a priority. The rest of the skilled laborers made $25-50k/yr.

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What do you do for a living that you earn 6 figures with a bachelors degree?

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Are you asking because you don't think there are many jobs that require only a bachelors degree (and perhaps some professional certifications) that allow someone to make $100k+?

Better off going for the MBA my brother

I hate when people take the bait...