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re: French Mayor on Bikini Ban: They must accept our way of life

Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:49 am to
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Why do you disagree Salmon?


what is a "burkini" ban doing? nothing

it solves nothing

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Enclaves and failure to assimilate


I certainly think they should assimilate to a degree, but when we start legislating dress, I have issues


I don't agree with the burkini ban, I think they're stupid. This mayor was put in this position by his country's total refusal to accept reality for a couple of decades. Now, he's just giving radicals something to target.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:49 am to
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This isn't America, not every country is based on complete freedom.


I'm aware

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Many countries have culture with 1000s of years of history and prefer to keep it that way. I wouldn't support it in the USA, but I can fully support someone like France wanting people to assimilate into their culture and not change things.



how the hell does a "burkini" ban having anything to do with assimilating to their culture?

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:51 am to
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This isn't America, not every country is based on complete freedom


When the USA was created, what country did they look towards for modeling laws and freedoms?

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but I can fully support someone like France wanting people to assimilate into their culture and not change things.



Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:51 am to
Ban muslims. Problem solved.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:51 am to
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Not the same thing. Right?


Oh, I don't know Lloyd. The French are assholes.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:53 am to
Dumb law but whatever. Nuns go to beaches in similar clothing.



Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:55 am to
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When the USA was created, what country did they look towards for modeling laws and freedoms?


It definitely wasn't the ancien regime, which was in place in both 1776 and 1787. It was more like a small coterie of liberal noble thinkers from Britain and France from that time period. They did not control the government structure by any means in their respective countries.

France has a long, long history of doing things like this.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:56 am to
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how the hell does a "burkini" ban having anything to do with assimilating to their culture?



Are you serious? Which country is most well known in the world for their 'nude beaches'? Burkini's are the exact opposite of that.

Is it possible that the French take their 'beaching' a lot more serious, is that so wrong?

Frankly, burkini's make most around them uncomfortable. It's impossible to deny that if you are not Muslim.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:56 am to
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"if you don't want to live the way we do, don't come."



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"You have to behave in the way that people behave in the country that accepted you, and that is it,"

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:58 am to
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Are you serious? Which country is most well known in the world for their 'nude beaches'? Burkini's are the exact opposite of that.

Is it possible that the French take their 'beaching' a lot more serious, is that so wrong?



in the long list of things important to assimilation, what you wear at the beach is way down the list

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Frankly, burkini's make most around them uncomfortable.


sound awful SJWish
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:59 am to
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Whats the issue with the Burkini? its just clothing. Are we being forced to wear what the government says now?

This. I don't really support the ban because it's basically a decree from the government on what you can and can't wear.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:59 am to
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Frankly, burkini's make most around them uncomfortable. It's impossible to deny that if you are not Muslim.


You need a safe space baw?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:59 am to
He gone.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:59 am to
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in the long list of things more important to assimilation, what you wear at the beach is way down the list


Nah. Fashion is a pretty important part of culture, especially in France.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:00 am to
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Nah. Fashion is a pretty important part of culture, especially in France.


are they going to require all the American tourist to wear speedos now?

outlaw cargo shorts?
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 11:01 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:01 am to
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how the hell does a "burkini" ban having anything to do with assimilating to their culture?
the Muslim culture has been invading europe for decades with no intention to assimilate. Is it their fault for ignoring it for decades? sure. But looks like they want it to stop now. And it is that countries right do to that.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:01 am to
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Frankly, burkini's make most around them uncomfortable. It's impossible to deny that if you are not Muslim.

Why would it make me uncomfortable?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8012 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:01 am to
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are they going to require all the American tourist to wear speedos now?


If they really want to, so be it

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outlaw cargo shorts?


I'd support that as a global UN mandate
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:10 am to
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the Muslim culture has been invading europe for decades with no intention to assimilate.


right

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But looks like they want it to stop now.


with burkini bans?

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And it is that countries right do to that.


right

all I've said is that I think it is stupid and that I would never support it in the US
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:13 am to
Assimilation =/= stripping people of their religious and cultural identity.

Countless millions of Muslims have assimilated into American culture and life while still maintaining their right to freely practice their religion. Maybe France should take notes on what we do.
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