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Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:38 am to ArmyHogs
France has a major problem with its Muslims and immigration policy. So the obvious solution is to crack down on swimsuits.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:54 am to kingbob
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They shouldn't be worried about ticky-tacky bull shite like what people wear to the beach and instead focus on violent crime, people who refuse to work, rape, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and the rights of women. Harping on the way they dress for a day in the sun just plays into the radical's hands.
Agree with this. Allowing the mass immigration of Muslims was their first mistake. You need only read the tenants of the Koran and know that the vast majority of terrorism is committed by Muslims to understand that Muslims are radical by design.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:59 am to ArmyHogs
Title says BIKINI ban. Do you mean burken?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 12:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Neither. I'm wearing whatever the frick I want and you can take your big government liberal clothing laws and shove them up your arse.
Hold up brother...you are confused...I was simply being the "Devil's advocate." I'm not a freaking liberal and I'm damn sure no proponent of big government. My point was that sometimes you have to use extreme measures to combat extremists religious zealots...so, I understand the stance the French mayor took, especially considering the fact that 2 years ago, France would have made everyone don a hijab, or whatever it's called, on the beach if it offended Muslims.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 12:14 pm to biglego
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France has a major problem with its Muslims and immigration policy. So the obvious solution is to crack down on swimsuits.
I don't know why they started here, but at the same time you could say they are starting. They are drawing the line finally, in the sand where most Muslims don't go anyway. So in actuality its a pretty good place to start in my opinion.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:52 pm to RDOtiger
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I'm not a freaking liberal and I'm damn sure no proponent of big government. My point was that sometimes you have to use extreme measures to combat extremists religious zealots
These two sentences contradict each other.
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so, I understand the stance the French mayor took, especially considering the fact that 2 years ago, France would have made everyone don a hijab, or whatever it's called, on the beach if it offended Muslims.
There is virtually zero difference between "forcing everyone to don a hijab" and banning an article of clothing because it might offend french citizens.
Other than the fact that one of those things actually happened and the other neither happened nor was considered.
Only pussy communists who hate freedom would support or claim to understand such liberal bullshite.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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These two sentences contradict each other.
Okay, I'll humor you. Those two sentences do not contradict each other. America's Forefathers did not believe in big government and they would be considered conservative by most...however, they took extreme measures to secure their freedom from England because of an oppressive government - this analogy isn't perfect, but it serves the purpose.
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There is virtually zero difference between "forcing everyone to don a hijab" and banning an article of clothing because it might offend french citizens.
Other than the fact that one of those things actually happened and the other neither happened nor was considered.
Actually there is...why one may be actual (banning the headwear) and the other hypothetical (mandating the headwear), the fact is that Muslims in France, or any other country they have migrated to, do not assimilate...not only do they refuse assimilation, they staunchly adhere to their customs and resort to violence to make non-believers assimilate to their ways. Therefore, with all that said, there is a difference...that mayor is using abnormal tactics to combat an unreasonable national government from bowing to the wants of individuals who practice and serve an unreasonable religion.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:09 pm to ArmyHogs
I'm happy as long as no one band Ralph Lauren polos.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:25 pm to RDOtiger
quote:So pretty much exactly what this french mayor is doing?
the fact is that Muslims in France, or any other country they have migrated to, do not assimilate...not only do they refuse assimilation, they staunchly adhere to their customs and resort to violence to make non-believers assimilate to their ways.
What if someone wears a burkini, is fined and refuses to pay the fine? Do they go to jail? Should they go to jail?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:34 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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refuses to pay the fine? Do they go to jail? Should they go to jail?
No...but they could be asked to leave the beach.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:36 pm to RDOtiger
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No...but they could be asked to leave the beach.
And what if they don't want to leave the beach?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:39 pm to baldona
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This isn't America, not every country is based on complete freedom. Many countries have culture with 1000s of years of history and prefer to keep it that way. I wouldn't support it in the USA, but I can fully support someone like France wanting people to assimilate into their culture and not change things.
High, we're talking about France dude, they chopped the head off of their king, pretty sure they believe in freedom as much as we do
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:47 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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And what if they don't want to leave the beach?
Then they go to jail for defying the orders of a police officer...something people in our country has trouble with too (and that isn't hypothetical either.).
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:49 pm to kingbob
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So, someone wearing anything less revealing than a damn speedo gets a ticket? How asinine is that?
At many pools in France men are required to wear a speedo. If you don't have one that might have one that you can buy from a vending machine.
No Speedo? Then don't try to go swimming in France — seriously
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:38 pm to RDOtiger
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Then they go to jail for defying the orders of a police officer
But what if they don't want to go to jail? Will they be forced to? With what? Guns? Sounds like it could get violent if a Burkini wearer refuses to not wear a burkini at the beach.
So what you're saying is that this city in France staunchly adheres to their French customs and will resort to violence to make non-believers assimilate to their ways?
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:11 am to JohnnyKilroy
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So what you're saying is that this city in France staunchly adheres to their French customs and will resort to violence to make non-believers assimilate to their ways?
Your deflecting the reality associated with Muslim people...the French do NOT kill people or even arrest people who do not follow their customs, that's a tactic commonly used by ME Muslims - Muslims are not normal people who are filled with civility...their religion preaches world dominance, and even the ones who aren't extremist are still complicit because they are too weak to call out the violent ones of their religion, or they quietly agree with the actions of the extremist. If you're looking to enlighten me on the fallacy of my thoughts with regards to Muslims, then save your breath because it's not going to happen - I agree with the ,mayor even though it doesn't align with our Constitution...
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:13 am to ArmyHogs
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Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:16 am to ArmyHogs
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"If you are accepted in Rome -- do like Romans do," he said, adding, "go in Saudi Arabia and be naked and see what will happen to you."
I like this guy.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:17 am to SG_Geaux
For you people downvoting, are we supposed to adapt to them? Should immigrants not learn English if they move to the US?
Should we all learn Arabic because Hildabeast and the Obamessiah want to fill the US with Muslims?
Do you think if you moved to China, Japan, Sweden, or anywhere else that they should all adapt to American culture?
No, you adapt to where you move.
Now the Burkini thing in France may be a bit silly but it is a small part of a much bigger picture.
Should we all learn Arabic because Hildabeast and the Obamessiah want to fill the US with Muslims?
Do you think if you moved to China, Japan, Sweden, or anywhere else that they should all adapt to American culture?
No, you adapt to where you move.
Now the Burkini thing in France may be a bit silly but it is a small part of a much bigger picture.
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