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Posted on 8/8/14 at 8:54 am to LSUSoulja08
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I know it will move quicker but does it really push your MPG up near 30? This seems like a to-good-to-be-true type thing.
If you consider 20 and on rare occasion 22 to be close to 30, then sure.
But no. It's a good motor, but it's no the fuel efficient motor it's marketed as. They get better mileage when not in boost, but majority of the time they are in boost...in which case it gets the same or worse mileage as a V8.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 8:57 am to LSUSoulja08
My son really likes his '11.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:05 am to LSUSoulja08
It's a great motor if you are used to the boat anchor Ford Triton engine family. Otherwise, they are typical direct injection gasoline V6 engines with turbochargers.
The Ford turbocharged engine has had well reported problems and there are long term durability concerns with the turbochargers with regular towing. Consumer Reports recommends the V8 powered F150, but not the ecoboost models.
It's powerful, but offers no real advantage in fuel efficiency over the V8s from both Ford and the competition. I think the 5.0L is the first decent gasoline V8 Ford has made in a while, and that would be my choice if I wanted a Ford 150.
Ford is betting on gasoline turbocharged engines, which it think won't really offer significant gains in fuel economy over V8s until they figure out how to cut significant weight from their full sized trucks. They are heavier than the competition now, but they are trying to address that with the new model coming out next year.
Between the very competitive Hemi V8, GM small block V8, and the new Ford V8s.....the only alternative I'd seriously consider in a full sized trucks would be a turbocharged diesel engine. That's just my preference.
The Ford turbocharged engine has had well reported problems and there are long term durability concerns with the turbochargers with regular towing. Consumer Reports recommends the V8 powered F150, but not the ecoboost models.
It's powerful, but offers no real advantage in fuel efficiency over the V8s from both Ford and the competition. I think the 5.0L is the first decent gasoline V8 Ford has made in a while, and that would be my choice if I wanted a Ford 150.
Ford is betting on gasoline turbocharged engines, which it think won't really offer significant gains in fuel economy over V8s until they figure out how to cut significant weight from their full sized trucks. They are heavier than the competition now, but they are trying to address that with the new model coming out next year.
Between the very competitive Hemi V8, GM small block V8, and the new Ford V8s.....the only alternative I'd seriously consider in a full sized trucks would be a turbocharged diesel engine. That's just my preference.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 9:17 am
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:05 am to LSUSoulja08
I have a regular f150 v8 and I average 17.5. Neighbor has eco-boost and gets right at 20
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:11 am to member12
quote:= crap
Ford Triton engine family
quote:no they are not.They are the most technologically advanced motor offering ever put out on the Domestic market.
Otherwise, they are typical direct injection gasoline V6 engines with turbochargers.
quote:condensation in the intercooler?
The Ford turbocharged engine has had well reported problems and there are long term durability concerns
List a few others.
quote:i'd like to see what sort of testing CR has done to come to this conclusion.
with regular towing. Consumer Reports recommends the V8 powered F150, but not the ecoboost models.
quote:i looked but cannot find any articles claiming it to be more fuel efficient. I see articles claiming the motor to be "greener" but i'm pretty sure that is referring to emissions.
It's powerful, but offers no real advantage in fuel efficiency over the V8s from both Ford and the competition
quote:we agree. Love the new Coyote 5.0 as well.
I think the 5.0L is the first decent gasoline V8 Ford has made in a while
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:15 am to LSUSoulja08
I have a 2012 ecoboost. I average around 18-19 with hwy driving and city..a long trip going about 75-80 consistently I will get about 20-21.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:18 am to meauxjeaux2
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i'd like to see what sort of testing CR has done to come to this conclusion.
It is based on statistical analysis of the problems reported by their subscribers. The turbocharged V6 model F150s had significantly more issues than trucks with the gasoline V8.
There's also the problem that Ford charges more for the Ecoboost. I would not pay more for a more complicated engine with questionable long term durability and costs of ownership over the 5.0L V8, which appears to be the obvious option to me. I think Ford, General Motors, and Chrysler all have very good naturally aspriated gasoline engines, and they are all the safe bet for a vehicle expected to be used in harsh conditions for 8-10 years.
I'd definately go with the 5.0L V8....or that naturally aspirated V6 job if you are only looking for a basic rig.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 9:31 am
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:19 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:probably just basing on years reliability vs not many years of testing of the eco boost and how those wound up motors have to be maintenanced thoroughly to keep it reliable.
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with regular towing. Consumer Reports recommends the V8 powered F150, but not the ecoboost models.
i'd like to see what sort of testing CR has done to come to this conclusion.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:21 am to LSUSoulja08
Had mine for a year now....love it! Thing will get up and move if you need it to.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:22 am to CarRamrod
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those wound up motors
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:23 am to member12
quote:condensation issues in the intercoolers.
The turbocharged V6 model F150s had significantly more issues than trucks with the gasoline V8.
Whoop-de-frickin-doo.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:31 am to meauxjeaux2
The 15's are coming with a new Ecoboost engine. It's a 2.7 v6 rated at 325hp with 375lbs of torque, early indications are that this engine will get up to 28 on the highway
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:34 am to saintkenn
Yea right.
28 isn't happening without a 30 speed transmission and an aluminum frame.
It might be capable of those numbers on paper, but nobody will were them.
28 isn't happening without a 30 speed transmission and an aluminum frame.
It might be capable of those numbers on paper, but nobody will were them.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:37 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Ford has overrated mpg #'s before, 28 seems a bit ambitious...but probably not impossible.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:38 am to jordan21210
Ford overrates everything.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:39 am to saintkenn
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It's a 2.7 v6 rated at 325hp with 375lbs of torque, early indications are that this engine will get up to 28 on the highway
If it can do that in a four wheel drive model, my concerns over the durability problems and long term maintenance costs of the more elaborate engine configuration would definately start to melt away. I can overlook at lot for a full sized truck with that kind of mileage.
I suspect that they mean 28 mpg on the highway in a regular cab, two wheel drive model with gearing that handicaps performance though. It's going to be hard to see numbers like that without a diesel engine, unless they start making trucks out of paper.
Has Ford announced pricing of their new aluminum body trucks?
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:41 am to member12
Would be like the Toyota Tacomas of old. People would flock to them if they were really that good on gas and durable.
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