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re: For anyone with parents/grandparents alive during segregation

Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by ohmdawg
tZone
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:54 pm to
I interviewed a horse cop who was part of the force in Montgomery Alabama years ago and he pointed out some very interesting tid bits that the existing films do corroborate.

The marchers would hide razor blades between the fingers in their gloves and in the tips of their shoes in which to inconspicuously slash the horses and you can see them kicking at the police. I never understood that until he pointed it out and it has been hidden by the media mostly.

The civil rights museum in Tuskegee has a small area where it's actually depicted with the shoes and gloves used.

It turns out all these marches weren't as innocently non violent as we might be told from the protesting end but, the end result assuredly justified the means.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20026 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:17 pm to
In St. James Parish, Cypress Grove school became the school for the boys and Lutcher High School became the school for the girls. Cypress Grove was the black school and Lutcher was the white high school
Posted by mikelowery1911
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
896 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:33 pm to
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Young people have this picture in their mind that they can't get past. Life was very different in all areas of the country. There is no argument that there was inequality and unfairness. The point is not everyone was pissed off and unhappy. Sometimes ignorance is really bliss. It was for me and it was for my friends.

Where are you from? Your name interests me
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18840 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:29 pm to
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Where are you from? Your name interests me


I've lived all but 4 years right here in Ascension parish. 2 years was in the Army. The first 2 years was in southwest La. If you google redbone and southwest La. you will find out what I actually am.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15285 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:00 am to
My dad was born late 60s. So he grew up shortly after integration in Louisiana. He said growing up early on was tough. Many of the white kids were very racist and rude. He had a tough temper so he got into a lot of fights. Apparently relations got better as he grew up. He lived in a small city, so some of those same white kids he beat up as kids became his best friends later on in life. Not sure how that works out


My great uncle was much older. He grew up in the north. He said in his city racism wasn't much of an issue. Of course there were racists whites around, but they weren't the majority. He knew the areas/businesses to avoid so he was fine. He went to the south once as a young adult. He went to Alabama to visit a friend. After 2 days he said this place is the devils playground and never came back. To this day he still hasn't entered the state of alabama. He refuses at 84 years old

Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:35 am to
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We get the likes of Strongsafety (a member here) that is invested in black theology





I'm convinced that strong safety knows better than the bullshite he spouts. He disappoints every time he posts
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:43 am to
I grew up in Concordia parish in the sixties we had black families that worked for my grandpa. I know everyone was treated with the utmost respect. I started school in 1969 we all went to the same school. It was Monterey high school grades 1 thru 12

Also I would never have graduated if it wasn't for the little black girls that did my schoolwork for me

I love those little black girls to this day
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 12:45 am
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3488 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:06 am to
I was in the 5th grade when our schools in East Feliciana parish were integrated in January of 1970. That year we stayed in the same classes, white/black, but went to the same school. The next year we had separate homerooms but went to integrated classes first four periods. It was weird but the kids didn't care. My best friend that year was a black kid named Ernest. We shared cokes everyday and played ball together. After that we went to the "high school" which was 7-12th grade and all classes were integrated. Never had any race issues at all at our school. I think it was because everyone in that town was poor, whites were just as bad off as blacks so everyone identified with a struggle. Only thing was we continued to have separate homecoming dances/proms up til a few years after I graduated. Issue was back then we hired bands to play for the dances and the issue was blacks wanted soul stuff and we wanted rock bands. Once the dj craze hit it was no problem.

And yeah I remember the 'whites only' signs and stuff like that. I used to ask my mom why I couldn't go in that door, I was jealous because I couldn't go in there. She just blew me off. Funny how kids think.

Posted by Speys and Tays
Member since Dec 2014
340 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:08 am to
My father would tell stories of a high school rivalry where the whole town would show up for the game. Since integration the neighborhoods have changed and the school is a war zone, probably less than a hundred show up for games. His recollections are more along the lines of the tearing down of the,public school system.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:37 am to
One of my grandfathers referred to black people as "n@gger" in conversation yet never with any negativity inherent to race (and often with respect in the same sentence) and seemed to like and respect black people as much as white people generally by word and deed.

Ex.: "Now that n@gger Joe is a good fella I tell ya, and he knows as much about fixin cars as anybody."
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 5:24 am to
I've heard the term used similarly, but more like in statements about a black person being hapless because of poverty and ignorance.

It's like a lot of the older people were racist but not really hateful.

And wow, so many descendants of racial heroes in this thread.

My mom was in high school during integration. Says there were some fights but nothing major.

I went to HS in the 90s. Don't think I saw a single interracial fight. Saw a lot of blacks beat the shite out of each other, including girls.


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67069 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:55 am to
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I went to HS in the 90s. Don't think I saw a single interracial fight. Saw a lot of blacks beat the shite out of each other, including girls.


I was there in the late 2000s. I was a senior when Barack Obama was elected. We had 3 days of straight up chaos between the whites and blacks at the school. Kids who were friends and teammates the week before were suddenly trying to pummel each others' faces in over a black president. They had to bring in half a dozen armed sheriffs deputes to keep the peace.

That was the first time I saw real racial animosity in person.
Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
Member since Jun 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:04 am to
All these made for Disney post are entertaining, and some might even be true.

But my family caught hell during those times. My mom was arrested for participating in a peaceful protest. I had a great uncle who was lynched because he refused to give up land that was legally his.

My grandmother and her generation took a lot of shite, don't get it twisted, there was a lot of pain behind those seemingly content faces.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:15 am to
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All these made for Disney post are entertaining, and some might even be true.
yeah. Don't let all these people fool you with their fairytale stories. They all secretely want to drag black people down the streets behind their jacked up 4x4 F250's
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:39 am to
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But my family caught hell during those times. My mom was arrested for participating in a peaceful protest. I had a great uncle who was lynched because he refused to give up land that was legally his.


My grandmother has many stories. One story she tells always bring her to tears. Its the story about my great grandfather, her father losing his life, while trying to defend his land from envious whites who hated his prosperity. No one was ever brought to charges and my family had to leave the area because constant threats.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:03 am to
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Posted by BIGDAB
All these made for Disney post are entertaining, and some might even be true.

But my family caught hell during those times. My mom was arrested for participating in a peaceful protest. I had a great uncle who was lynched because he refused to give up land that was legally his.

My grandmother and her generation took a lot of shite, don't get it twisted, there was a lot of pain behind those seemingly content faces.



If they're ignorant to the actual trangressions of their past, then they'd be cognizant of the sheer pain and agony behind the hAplessness and glee.
Posted by Paratiger
Haughton, La
Member since Nov 2014
428 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:12 am to
When MLK was killed a black guy I worked with told me "it's war now". Nothing happened.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:27 am to
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Don't think I saw a single interracial fight. Saw a lot of blacks beat the shite out of each other, including girls.


The best fight I ever witnessed was two black guys after school. They didn't even leave campus, they just waited til pretty much everyone was gone and started pounding each other.

Two girls got in a fight at breakfast in the cafeteria, one smashed a tray into the other's face.

I graduated HS less than 10 years ago.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:19 am to
I may have been alive then.

I was born in 61' in Alabama.As a kid I was kind of oblivious to it but there was a lot of violence when the schools were integrated.

I was in the 6th Grade when they started busing white kids to historically black schools and visa-versa.

eta:I'm sure my Father had views on Race Relations that he kept to himself.

My family has been in the Propane business since the 1950's.Everything my family has is because people,Black and White,bought something from us that they could have bought from someone else.





This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by mikelowery1911
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
896 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:26 am to
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I've lived all but 4 years right here in Ascension parish. 2 years was in the Army. The first 2 years was in southwest La. If you google redbone and southwest La. you will find out what I actually am.

Ahhh. I thought you might have been from Appalachia with that name. My family comes from a community of Redbones in it Appalachian Mountains.
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