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re: Florida gov reassigns case after DA refuses death penalty

Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35130 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:31 pm to
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everybody who turns an eye to a murderer getting life instead of death?


Uh... Yes.

In a modern and civilized (lol) world, whos population is ever increasing, if you commit murder, and there is zero doubt about it, you deserve to be walked out back and put down like a dog.

Why waste years and millions of dollars that could be spent uplifting poor areas, just so a frick who killed a pregnant woman and a cop can get 3 meals a day and a roof over his head, at OUR expense?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:31 pm to
Why are you in favor of big government? Local gov said no death penalty, local government is infallible because it's small
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:35 pm to
How is a state attorney local government?

Clearly someone doesn't know how FL's prosecutorial system works...
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35130 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:35 pm to
I'm in favor of eliminating life in prison for violent crimes such as murder, saving tax payers millions of dollars, lowering the prison population, and increased funding in poor and dilapidated areas. All at once!

Why do you think that people who murder others deserve to live 10, 20, 30 years, getting 3 meals a day, all for free?
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21227 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:35 pm to
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I am against the governor's order on the simple basis that it shouldn't be up to the governor to decide what cases get prosecuted and how it gets prosecuted. Setups up very bad precedent IMHO.

What say the OT?


Depends on the state constitution. If she is refusing constitutional duty, the governor could have reason to step in. Prosecutors have a lot of discretion, but that discretion must operate within the bounds of state law.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:38 pm to
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It's within her discretion to charge as she pleases. She only answers to the people as an elected official.


It is apparently in the Governor's discretion to reassign, right? As an elected official, he answers to the voters also.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20942 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:48 pm to
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You have a problem with the Governor doing what he did but no problem with what that prosecutor did?


I have a problem with governors making prosecutorial decisions.

There's a million ways this could end badly if the circumstances were slightly different.

Politicians and prosecutors should have very little to do with one another.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:51 pm to
Massive fail on lakebois part, but par for the course
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84320 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:52 pm to
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Why are you in favor of big government? Local gov said no death penalty, local government is infallible because it's small


So retarded

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Lakeboy7


Makes sense.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84320 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:56 pm to
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There's a million ways this could end badly if the circumstances were slightly different.

Politicians and prosecutors should have very little to do with one another.


His actions are within the law apparently. Why do you care about him doing something he's allowed to do?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20942 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:01 pm to
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His actions are within the law apparently. Why do you care about him doing something he's allowed to do?



Because of the precedent it sets.

Say another case comes along for a political crony and the governor thinks the prosecutor is getting too close to a conviction. He can reassign the SA at a moment's notice, to repay a political debt, or to shield shady activity.

Like I said it may be legal, but it sets terrible precedent.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84320 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:02 pm to
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Say another case comes along for a political crony and the governor thinks the prosecutor is getting too close to a conviction. He can reassign the SA at a moment's notice, to repay a political debt, or to shield shady activity.

Like I said it may be legal, but it sets terrible precedent.


I think it's a great precedent. The DA fricked up.

ETA: If this case doesn't deserve the death penalty in a state that allows it, there's no point in having the death penalty.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20942 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:06 pm to
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think it's a great precedent. The DA fricked up.

ETA: If this case doesn't deserve the death penalty in a state that allows it, there's no point in having the death penalty.


From my understanding of the law it extends far past the death penalty (the governor's ability to interject like this)- that's my main qualm here. The dude is probably guilty, and he'll be punished for it. That I don't have a problem with. It's moreso the process.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:11 pm to
He murdered his pregnant girlfriend and three weeks later, he murdered an OPD Officer, execution style. They had a gun fire exchange where she went down. He walked up to her and shot her in her face to finish her off.

In each of his Court appearances, he has told the Judge to frick off and has now declared himself a Sovereign Citizen.

This guy needs to die.

The Florida Constitution for the Governor to appoint a Special Prosecutor as deemed appropriate. I fully support Governor Scott in his decision. He's been a great Governor, by the way.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 9:27 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30302 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:13 pm to

Rick Scott is an idiot


Rick Scott is a great governor. You don't have a sniff what you're talking about.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:14 pm to
Just string him up.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4642 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:24 pm to
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So like everybody who turns an eye to a murderer getting life instead of death? Idiots actually rely on emotional things, like the occupation of a victim.


Geez you're dumb. Your argument is literally people talking about the woman being a cop, and people mentioning it. In other words, let's just say he killed two women and one if them being a pregnant woman. In that case, he still needs to die.

In this country, our judicial system has become ridiculous. When a judge/unelected official can overthrow a presidents/elected officials policy, something needs to change.

For every action there is a consequence.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:32 pm to
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Kill him.


I agree. Governor Scott is a dick and should be put on death row.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71446 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:05 pm to
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Because of the precedent it sets.

Say another case comes along for a political crony and the governor thinks the prosecutor is getting too close to a conviction. He can reassign the SA at a moment's notice, to repay a political debt, or to shield shady activity.

Like I said it may be legal, but it sets terrible precedent.


The DA is also setting a terrible precedent. She's not following the law based on her personal beliefs. Can't do that as an agent of the state.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39285 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:08 pm to
This douche executed a police Sergeant. The state attorney, who just won her elected position, came out against the death penalty. Not just his.

When asked why she did not tell the public before the election about her opinion on the DP, she stated "They know now."

The execution was caught on video in a Walmart parking lot. His relatives helped him hide for a week or two.

Rick Scott, the governor, is a huge thief. He was ripping off Uncle Sam and received the largest individual white collar fine in US history. Over a billion dollars.



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