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re: Firm proposes inner loop for BTR

Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:52 pm to
Move the bottleneck to the old bridge. That will work.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:52 pm to
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Yep. They study everything and then decide against it. Because someone will complain


Then someone else comes back 4-5 years later and wants to do another multi-million dollar study. Of course they'll say that NONE of the info gained from the study just a few years prior will be of any relevance to the new study. The new firm will have to reinvent the wheel at a cost of several million dollars. Rinse and repeat every 5 years of so.

No one can blow through other people's money better than the government
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:53 pm to
NIMBY
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:53 pm to
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So they want to make airline a toll road?
You can't put a toll on an existing highway without adding capacity--lanes.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:53 pm to
Yoda said it best.

Do, or do not. Quit fricking studying everything.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:53 pm to
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the loop is to just go to airline highway from the old bridge?

seems like that would just add to airline highway being a clusterfrick
They are proposing to make it like a freeway, with no signals. They are citing the fact that it has numerous frontage roads to facilitate access to businesses, which is mostly correct. But there would be some additional ones needed. You'd have the equivalent of off-ramps connecting to the frontage roads.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:53 pm to
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the loop is to just go to airline highway from the old bridge?

seems like that would just add to airline highway being a clusterfrick



Sounds more like raised expressway with frontage roads along Airline. Like what you'd find in Houston or Westbank Expressway.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:54 pm to
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You can't put a toll on an existing highway without adding capacity--lanes.


I haven't seen any details, but without adding capacity to Airline, this plan wouldn't work anyway.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:55 pm to
FYI when they do studies like this, they have to project demands 15-20 years into the future.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:55 pm to
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I mean, frick. Stop "studying" everything.


Federal Highway says high.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Move the bottleneck to the old bridge. That will work



maybe they can do it before the painters are finished. that would really help things out.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:56 pm to
That's what I'm saying...they have to add capacity in order to toll it, so by default Airline would be upgraded.

My vote is three lanes each direction with frontage roads.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:56 pm to
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Federal Highway says high.

lol
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:57 pm to
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quote:
seems like that would just add to airline highway being a clusterfrick


Airline would be upgraded.


The process was actually started more than 40 years ago.

You can see by the interchanges already there at Greenwell Springs, Florida, and I 12. And to some extent, Jefferson.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:58 pm to
If you "upgrade" Airline to a "freeway, with no signals, how do you get traffic to the opposite side frontage roads, without elevated crossovers?
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:59 pm to
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maybe they can do it before the painters are finished. that would really help things out.


Explain please
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:59 pm to
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My vote is three lanes each direction with frontage roads.


REJECTED.

4 lanes in each direction, with one of them being a through-lane for trucks only, and frontage roads.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:00 pm to
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FYI when they do studies like this, they have to project demands 15-20 years into the future.



You think this plan will still be a viable solution in 15-20 years?

Seems like this should have been done years ago.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:00 pm to
Will the OT be able to handle this?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:00 pm to
Stupid bottom of page
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