re: Does it blow anyone's mind the Twin Towers of the WTC aren't there anymore?

Watching the first few seasons of the Sopranos and seeing the towers in the intro gives me the feels. Side note, I went to the observatory a few months ago, and the view is unreal.

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I guess the tour guide I had in Arlington was a paid government plant since he talked about sitting in traffic as the airliner flew directly over him before striking the Pentagon.

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If you believe in government conspiracies that's not exactly far-fetched.

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If you believe in government conspiracies that's not exactly far-fetched.

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I guess it all depends on your particular confirmation bias.

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And we know about it.

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...and before that it was a "conspiracy theory" shot down and laughed at by people like you.

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And we know about that too.

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See above.

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Yes, thousands of people conspiring to mass murder our own citizens and none of them coming forward is crazy talk. Thanks for agreeing with me.

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I dont think you understand how these things work. Look at the examples I listed. One hand doesnt know what the other is doing. Compartmentalization is how these things remain under wraps. Oh, and of course its convenient for you to ignore all people who have worked on projects such as these inside all the government acronyms who later come out after theyve retired and their career is no longer on the line and admit to all the crazy shite said agencies do.

Here. Ill repost what I posted in another thread about "conspiracy theories".

---Theyre only considered "conspiracy theories" until theyre no longer theories and are proven to be true. At that point everyone instantly forgets that there were a few ridiculed crazies screaming about it from the beginning. Every scandal ever starts out as a "conspiracy theory". What yall are really arguing over is how deep the rabbit hole actually goes. Claiming there are no rabbit holes and never was, or worse yet, no rabbits at all, is to be blissfully ignorant of history.---

Heres a good read.

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Agreed... anyone who thinks this was not an outside attack is just plain stipid.....
All I know is that they used OUR own planes to destroy our property and try to change the way we live..... frick them......

I understand you can't believe everything you hear and there is nothing wrong with questioning things, but there are people who takes it to the extreme. They find some type of conspiracy in everything. I think they look for any little thing that they can attach to some out the box theory and they think about it so much to the point they convince themselves it is true.

Last night, I saw a youtube video of a guy who "broke down the truth" of 9/11. He was arguing that the planes that hit the towers were not commercial planes. I think he said they could have been some type of bomber planes, but it was clear to him that they were not the type of planes that were supposedly hijacked. In other words, he was saying the whole thing was staged. You know how many people would have to be involved in staging that?

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But once shite happens, then they come forward.

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Not always. In fact, rarely. There are still repercussions to coming out. Just ask Edward Snowden or thousands of others.

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Do you think that the people who packed the thousands of pounds worth of explosives in the WTC wouldn't immediately realize what happened? People would make the connection.

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Im not assuming anything. I just dont automatically believe everything I hear. Im always a skeptic and history shows that you really cant put anything past anyone, especially those with power. "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

I think people who automatically dismiss any alternative theory to the official narrative need to dig really deep and ask themselves if they are being impartial and objective when considering the facts or if the truth is just really hard to swallow and they just dont want to believe that their government is capable of such atrocities or deceit. Those that ignore history are bound to repeat it.

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And there are hundreds upon hundreds of more questions that none of you wackjobs have been able to explain. If you can answer these, then I'll be impressed, since I've never met a person who is able to address any of these very important questions.

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There are always questions that go unanswered. These are the questions that people want answered. As ridiculous as you think those scenarios you outlined are, is as ridiculous as people think it is that a concrete and steel building that wasnt hit by a plane fell in freefall fashion from isolated fires(WTC7) or how one of the hijackers passports(ID?) was found totally unscathed on the streets below the WTCs.

Im not the one assuming anything. Im open to any possibility. You are the one thats assuming what happened. Im merely dissatisfied with the "official" answers to these questions as they defy logic, science and common sense.

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I understand you can't believe everything you hear and there is nothing wrong with questioning things, but there are people who takes it to the extreme. They find some type of conspiracy in everything. I think they look for any little thing that they can attach to some out the box theory and they think about it so much to the point they convince themselves it is true.

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I feel the same way but you shouldnt lump everyone together. There are extremists in every group but that doesnt make their questions any less valid. You have to consider each point on its own. As crazy as it may seem that anyone, besides terrorists, would plan and execute such a diabolical scheme, there are still some very interesting inconsistencies that should be addressed in a logical manner and not condescendingly dismissed as "crazy talk" from "conspiracy theorists".

Again, history has shown that people can and will commit massive atrocities. As abused as this is, dont you think the German people said the same things? "Youre a crazy conspiracy theorist Hans. Nie das Fuhrer oven Jews."

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Im not assuming anything. I just dont automatically believe everything I hear. Im always a skeptic and history shows that you really cant put anything past anyone, especially those with power. "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

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Which means you're talking shite. You don't have anything. Your narrative is "some powerful person or people did it" without giving me any actual suspect or the means they could have done it. Sorry, but something with the lack any of evidence whatsoever, or a suspect, or means, then you're talking shite. Just imagine if a lawyer walked into a courthouse with the crap you people spill. You'd be laughed out immediately.

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here are always questions that go unanswered. These are the questions that people want answered.

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Well the answers to literally all of my questions are they're either A) impossible or B) someone remotely associated with this would have found out about it almost immediately. With the sheer amount of logistics and people that would have to be behind this, you have to be either crazy or an idiot to think it. If "they" have one thing out of place or one person running to the press or authorities to rat them all out, then dozens if not hundreds people behind the plan will be literally executed for it. There seems to be little reward for the insane stupid risk that this would entail. You act like Lex Luthor is running things, not a government that couldn't cover up a President getting a blowjob.

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Which means you're talking shite. You don't have anything. Your narrative is "some powerful person or people did it" without giving me any actual suspect or the means they could have done it. Sorry, but something with the lack any of evidence whatsoever, or a suspect, or means, you're talking shite.

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No. Not at all. Im simply stating that I dont believe all the answers given.
Thats it.
Nothing more.

Again, history has shown that governments can and have committed large scale coverups. Do your own research and enlighten yourself.