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re: Does Houston have too much concrete?

Posted on 8/27/17 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65538 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Does Houston have too much concrete?
Not if you live there & sell Concrete & Concrete Accessories.

PS:

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19995 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 5:33 pm to
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yeah thats it Einstein. If they had more grass and trees it would've absorbed all the rain.


You are missing his point.

Land development kills natural drainage.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27072 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 5:39 pm to
Houston and the surrounding areas actually have pretty good stormwater requirements. TS Allison really opened the eyes of the local engineers to get tough on stormwater. When I worked in BR/Nola doing stormwater work, we'd constantly look at Houston as an example. I took several trips there to study projects that backwards-arse Louisiana would never do. Harris County Flood Control is fairly progressive.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 5:45 pm to
No, Texas politicians didn't steal the tax money intended for drainage improvements, like Louisiana's did.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29481 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:57 pm to
Storm drainage is scoped for major rain/thunder storms. A hurricane's water output is far beyond those drainage plans.

Some of the people on this board amuse me.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10506 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:03 pm to
Houston has the competency to fix issues after this. New Orleans will always be a shithole.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62741 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:11 pm to
What would NOLA look like if it received 40+ inches of rain in 3 days?
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:13 pm to
Yes there is too much concrete and not enough parks
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:16 pm to
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Houston has the competency to fix issues after this. New Orleans will always be a shithole.


I don't disagree that NOLA leadership is awful, but it's far more complex to drain NOLA during a storm. It's a much bigger engineering challenge. It's not even close. Even the Dutch think New Orleans is extremely difficult to manage.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:19 pm to
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don't disagree that NOLA leadership is awful, but it's far more complex to drain NOLA during a storm. It's a much bigger engineering challenge. It's not even close. Even the Dutch think New Orleans is extremely difficult to manage.

Which makes it an even bigger abomination that worthless frick Landrieu let the pumps and drainage get that bad off in the first place.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6434 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:20 pm to
I work in Stormwater solutions for a living . I can tell you that Texas and a few states in the far northeast are the lead dogs in innovative Stormwater solutions .

This is just a freak rain event .

All new commercial construction over the past 10 years is required to offset impervious development .

I live in northwest houston and am taking on water .
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15822 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:21 pm to
Just like I-12 fracked up the Dinky.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7823 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:27 pm to
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would overwhelm any system.



Mitch, is that you?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:28 pm to
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Which makes it an even bigger abomination that worthless frick Landrieu let the pumps and drainage get that bad off in the first place.


Oh for sure. Very lucky this storm didn't go further east.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55986 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Does Houston have too much concrete? by LSUFanHouston


nope...all of that crap about too much concrete is a bunch of tree-hugging bullshite. fact is, water flows a lot better over concrete than it does through vegetation, etc. if the contour of the land and drainage system is equal, a lot more water will move if it is all concrete.

what you are alluding to is probably true for an afternoon thunderstorm that is not going to drain all the way to the ocean anyway, but the scale of rain that we are looking at is way beyond what any drainage system in existence can handle, regardless of what the surfaces are made of.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19245 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:47 pm to
Houston is flat, when it rains and you have a storm surge there's no where for the water to go.

I lived in Houston 9 years and we had at least three floods where I was off of work for several days

It is what it is
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:58 pm to
there's a major flood of some type in houston every 5 years ... lived there for 20 years ... that's about avg ...


not sure what can be done about it ...
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Does Houston have too much concrete? by LSUFanHouston


Yes too much concrete and you should set the example by tearing your home down and returning your lot to its natural state.

See how that works?
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:11 pm to
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A lack of zoning and a general desire of small government seem to make this happen.


Certainly a major contributor although few cities can handle 30 or more inches of rain in a couple of days, regardless of zoning and buildimg code that restricts impervious surface cover.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:39 pm to
I live in a master planned community, we have huge volumes of man made lakes and retention ponds, it's been raining cats and dogs, the streets have never even took on water. Yes, our houses don't look as original as a house in the Hieghts , but our house is dry, unlike most houses in Houston
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