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re: Dodge Viper to cease production in 2017
Posted on 10/19/15 at 3:39 pm to Restomod
Posted on 10/19/15 at 3:39 pm to Restomod
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Only from a low production number point of view. No exotic engine, no extensive use of exotic materials (Corvettes C6 ZR1/C7 Z06 have more carbon fiber and magnesium) than the Viper
The Viper is low production and hand built. The hood is a single piece of hand laid carbon fiber, the roof and deck lid are also carbon fiber - rest of the car is aluminum.
I guess everyone's definition of exotic is different, but I think an 8.4l pushrod V10 should qualify. Its certainly one of a kind.
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 3:41 pm to itawambadog
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Anyone remember the cheesy tv show from the early 90s called Viper? It was sorta like Knight Rider but the car didn't talk.
shite was horrible...
Posted on 10/19/15 at 4:48 pm to jordan21210
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but I think an 8.4l pushrod V10 should qualify. Its certainly one of a kind.
That engine is not exotic, it's truck engine casted in aluminum with better heads. Only the rarity makes it exotic IMO.
A C7 Z06 has more Carbon fiber, aluminum, magnesium and high tech gadgets. Ferrari is running an adjustable suspension system from the corvette. A $1million+ Ferrari Enzo shares the sames brake rotors and pads as the front of a C6 ZR1 Corvette.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 10/19/15 at 4:54 pm to NewIberiaHaircut
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on purpose and try to manipulate the used market prices for their cars. They are the De Beers of the auto industry.
The new guy is raising production a good bit. It will be interesting to see if quality suffers.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 4:55 pm to VetteGuy
Dodge is gonna dodge
Posted on 10/19/15 at 4:59 pm to Hardy_Har
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Regardless of what it has to do with anything, AWD cars are a driving bore on pavement.
I would have scared the shite out of you in my old EVO
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:00 pm to VetteGuy
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Some AWD systems allow the car to function as RWD and only kick in to AWD when you're on the track or when the system detects slippage in the rear.
Active center diffs are fun
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:04 pm to Adam4LSU
I learned that from Davy Jones last week.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:08 pm to VetteGuy
Maybe my favorite sports car of all time. I was obsessed with the Viper when I was a kid 
:bow:
:bow:Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:16 pm to Restomod
What's your end game here? Are you trying to argue that a Corvette is more exotic? Because you're only going to convince yourself of that.
What it was developed for is irrelevant. Lamborghini started out making tractors. Ford used a supercharged truck engine in the 2003 GT and they are using a hopped up Ecoboost in the new GT. By the very definition of the word, the Viper has an "exotic" motor - it is literally the only car in the world that runs a giant pushrod V10...and despite its humble beginnings, it's a good motor for the car.
Got a link to support that claim? Are you familiar with how large the Vipers hood is? If the Z06 has more CF, it's marginal. Did you also miss where I said the Viper has a CF hood, roof, and decklid and the rest of the car is aluminum? Not sure what amazing tech the Vette provides aside from a data recorder that the Viper also doesn't have.
Okay, that's cool I guess...but it still doesn't make the Vette super exotic or any rarer - a case could possibly be made for the C6 ZR1.
I'm not trying to bash the Vette - though the new Z06 is a bit of a let down IMO - I just don't see what the argument/point you're trying to make is. It's general consensus that the Viper is more of an exotic and more exclusive than the Vette. The price difference and production numbers reflect that.
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That engine is not exotic, it's truck engine casted in aluminum with better heads. Only the rarity makes it exotic IMO.
What it was developed for is irrelevant. Lamborghini started out making tractors. Ford used a supercharged truck engine in the 2003 GT and they are using a hopped up Ecoboost in the new GT. By the very definition of the word, the Viper has an "exotic" motor - it is literally the only car in the world that runs a giant pushrod V10...and despite its humble beginnings, it's a good motor for the car.
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A C7 Z06 has more Carbon fiber, aluminum, magnesium and high tech gadgets.
Got a link to support that claim? Are you familiar with how large the Vipers hood is? If the Z06 has more CF, it's marginal. Did you also miss where I said the Viper has a CF hood, roof, and decklid and the rest of the car is aluminum? Not sure what amazing tech the Vette provides aside from a data recorder that the Viper also doesn't have.
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Ferrari is running an adjustable suspension system from the corvette. A $1million+ Ferrari Enzo shares the sames brake rotors and pads as the front of a C6 ZR1 Corvette.
Okay, that's cool I guess...but it still doesn't make the Vette super exotic or any rarer - a case could possibly be made for the C6 ZR1.
I'm not trying to bash the Vette - though the new Z06 is a bit of a let down IMO - I just don't see what the argument/point you're trying to make is. It's general consensus that the Viper is more of an exotic and more exclusive than the Vette. The price difference and production numbers reflect that.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:48 pm to jordan21210
C6 or C7 Z06. Drop mic and end discussion.....
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:49 pm to VetteGuy
I didn't know they still were made, don't see them on the road anymore.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:51 pm to Hardy_Har
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Regardless of what it has to do with anything, AWD cars are a driving bore on pavement.
My RS7 begs to differ...
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:52 pm to SamuelClemens
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I didn't know they still were made, don't see them on the road anymore.
They are in the shop all the time.
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:08 pm to kywildcatfanone
Or because they typically produce less than 1,000/year. 
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 7:09 pm
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