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re: Detroit teachers upset over public school conditions (with pictures of problems)

Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:44 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51373 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:44 am to
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Wow. How can anyone be expected to teach and learn in that environment? How depressing.


I do feel sorry for the students.

They are zoned for a school district where no decent teachers want to teach and a city with politicians that don't give a crap about their well being so they tend to fail at higher rates. I bet a lot of these kids could do very well in a better district out in the suburbs.

Public education stopped being about the children a long time ago.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423365 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:44 am to
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Many kids never really have a chance.

i agree

the issue is what we can/will do about it

even talking about it in real terms is treacherous territory today
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22185 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:47 am to
I can only speak for myself, but there's no way I could be motivated to give a shite about school or learning anything if that's my visual everyday. There's fricking mushrooms growing out of the walls!
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83951 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:48 am to
Completely unacceptable. No child should have to go to a school like that. Those pictures infuriate me.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:49 am to
Those pictures honestly do not look that much worse than the rural public school that I went to

seriously

Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:50 am to
When you develop a love for learning, there's opportunity around every corner.


You see mushrooms growing out of walls, I see a teachable moment for science class.

Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160105 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:51 am to
You couldn't pay me enough to teach in a Detroit public school
Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
804 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:53 am to
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This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:43 am
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11240 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:53 am to
I feel bad for the kids having to live a world their parents and public leaders created.
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:53 am to
so after years of neglect, it's now the Republican governor's fault
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:54 am to
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the issue is what we can/will do about it even talking about it in real terms is treacherous territory today
The person who knows the answer and can apply it will be a hero.

That person isn't me.


I don't have the slightest clue how you make someone who doesn't care about their child care about their child. Having a child, in theory, should be enough to make you want to do everything you can to give him/her opportunities in life. If you don't care, I don't see how someone can talk you into it. So yea, no clue how we turn the epidemic around.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 10:18 am
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59605 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:57 am to
I wonder how active and strong the PTA is in that district?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423365 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:59 am to
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The person who knows the answer and can applicate it will be a hero.

the answer is rewarding and valuing good cultural values and marginalizing and criticizing bad cultural values

this post-modern view that people are born as a blank slate and cultures are equal is the antithesis of what i said

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I don't have the slightest clue how you make someone who doesn't care about their child care about their child.

now that is difficult, but if we marginalize the views that are so toxic in these relationships, it may help

having ignorant, uneducated people set in their ways act like they are on the same ground as successful people is just unworkable

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Having a child, in theory, should be enough to make you want to do everything you can to give him/her opportunities in life. If you don't care, I don't see how someone can talk you into it.

the biggest problem is that a big reason why they create such a toxic situation is what i spoke of above

these people fully think they are right and people like you and me (and our values) are wrong
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9501 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:01 am to
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I'll get flamed, but that's what years of unchecked Democrat rule will get you.

Flamed for telling the truth?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:03 am to
I would convert the entire city into a truck nut manufacturing hub.

I'd have unemployment at 0%, crime down, and truancy would virtually disappear overnight with a renewed interest in truck nut design, manufacturing, and marketing.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26697 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:03 am to


Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22185 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:06 am to
quote:

When you develop a love for learning, there's opportunity around every corner.


You see mushrooms growing out of walls, I see a teachable moment for science class.




Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11240 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:07 am to
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I would convert the entire city into a truck nut manufacturing hub.




Bad business model with the oil and gas field in its current state. Baws can't afford truck nuts like they used to.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:09 am to
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a valuable learning opportunity that you can't rely on the government to fix everything for you.

I am pretty sure they already know that.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7880 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:12 am to
Why include the last pic of Tiger Stadium?
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