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Deconstructionism is bullshite and just an academic approach to cultural destruction.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:37 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:37 am
Pretty long Tuesday morning pre-7am post below so get your coffee folks cause I'm about to pinch off an absolute loaf of a rant. If you haven't picked up a book since high school go ahead and get your downvote in.
I've been going back and forth on this for a few years and I'm ready to conclude the entire theory of deconstructionism is an Orwellian-doublespeak-esque way of rebranding tiresome and destructive whining as an "art form" which has razor-thin, minimally redeeming, original qualities and does very little to actually further philosophy, literature, or art in general in any meaningful way. It actually just serves as an incumberance to artistic/philosophical advancement as it discourages further construction of established mythologies.
It discourages exploring the endless complexity of the ancient tropes and themes-which were established for very good reason which are central to humanity- in favor of just poking weak, snide fun at the very things which created the civilizations and polite, empathetic societies which we all (I hope) would like to improve upon.
For instance- a deconstructionist would take my usage of the word "humanity" in the previous paragraph and try to substantiate some dumbassed non sequitur about what "humanity" means and who gets to define that term and what it means to different people and bullshite bullshite bullshite.
Every competent English speaker has a complex, but fundamentally shared, understanding of what "humanity" means.
Modern deconstructionism in practice basically just nips at the heels of the titans which preceded the cynical cretins who spew their pseudo-intellectual quips about how trite they view true compassion between fellow men and women. Irony and contrarianism is not a philosophy, but it seems like most people in the mainstream print and film media think otherwise and it has had an absolutely corrosive effect on people's ability to empathize with each other or anyone they even slightly have differences with.
Everything and everybody has to be self conscious and self-depricating otherwise it's not "cool" and "tries too hard." Therefore it is an "academically" invalid art form.
Attempts to portray any kind of non-meta sentimentality in art seem more and more often to be met with extreme cynicism and accusations of being tone-deaf to progress.
Western culture has been stuck in an expanding philosophical deconstructionist shithole since the hippy era of the 60's that's just been absolutely eating away at intellectualism and filling the cavity with confectionary self-awareness that coyly criticizes everything but absolutely never attempts to bring a solution to the table.
All that said, I'm completely guilty of participating in this destruction/deconstruction on this site, because it's really just a funny message board. My beef is with serious academic types who make trolling and undermining reality their IRL mission.
I've been going back and forth on this for a few years and I'm ready to conclude the entire theory of deconstructionism is an Orwellian-doublespeak-esque way of rebranding tiresome and destructive whining as an "art form" which has razor-thin, minimally redeeming, original qualities and does very little to actually further philosophy, literature, or art in general in any meaningful way. It actually just serves as an incumberance to artistic/philosophical advancement as it discourages further construction of established mythologies.
It discourages exploring the endless complexity of the ancient tropes and themes-which were established for very good reason which are central to humanity- in favor of just poking weak, snide fun at the very things which created the civilizations and polite, empathetic societies which we all (I hope) would like to improve upon.
For instance- a deconstructionist would take my usage of the word "humanity" in the previous paragraph and try to substantiate some dumbassed non sequitur about what "humanity" means and who gets to define that term and what it means to different people and bullshite bullshite bullshite.
Every competent English speaker has a complex, but fundamentally shared, understanding of what "humanity" means.
Modern deconstructionism in practice basically just nips at the heels of the titans which preceded the cynical cretins who spew their pseudo-intellectual quips about how trite they view true compassion between fellow men and women. Irony and contrarianism is not a philosophy, but it seems like most people in the mainstream print and film media think otherwise and it has had an absolutely corrosive effect on people's ability to empathize with each other or anyone they even slightly have differences with.
Everything and everybody has to be self conscious and self-depricating otherwise it's not "cool" and "tries too hard." Therefore it is an "academically" invalid art form.
Attempts to portray any kind of non-meta sentimentality in art seem more and more often to be met with extreme cynicism and accusations of being tone-deaf to progress.
Western culture has been stuck in an expanding philosophical deconstructionist shithole since the hippy era of the 60's that's just been absolutely eating away at intellectualism and filling the cavity with confectionary self-awareness that coyly criticizes everything but absolutely never attempts to bring a solution to the table.
All that said, I'm completely guilty of participating in this destruction/deconstruction on this site, because it's really just a funny message board. My beef is with serious academic types who make trolling and undermining reality their IRL mission.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 8:26 am
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:38 am to ManBearTiger
Excuse me, I have to go ask Raven if he wants his poopy diaper changed.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:39 am to ManBearTiger
TL,DR!!!!
Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:39 am to ManBearTiger
Is this where we bitch about paying taxes?
Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:41 am to el Gaucho
This is more about statues than taxes. Freakin read, baw.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:41 am to soccerfüt
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Excuse me, I have to go ask Raven if he wants his poopy diaper changed.
I wonder if she will one day tell raven how she allowed some of his brothers and sisters to die on the sheets, in her stomach and on the back seat of some 'rapist's' car.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 6:43 am to ManBearTiger
I got stuck at existentialism, it's too perfect for me to get past.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:15 am to ManBearTiger
Didn't read all of it but yes I have been saying that for years now.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:19 am to ManBearTiger
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Western culture has been stuck in an expanding philosophical deconstructionist shithole since the hippy era of the 60's that's just been absolutely eating away at intellectualism and filling the cavity with confectionary self-awareness that coyly criticizes everything but absolutely never attempts to bring a solution to the table.
Agree.
It's easy to find flaws in traditional philosophy and western culture, but no alternatives, other than anarchy, are offered as an alternative. Deconstructionism is a philosophy that basically throws it's hand up and says everything is just to complicated to understand or explain. It's nothing more than game playing with words. Sure, anyone can find contradictions or lack of clarity in an imperfect English language. This does not mean there are not truths and certainties that we should strive to identify and pursue.
Deconstructionism, and related philosophies, are for quitters.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:22 am to ManBearTiger
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Western culture has been stuck in an expanding philosophical deconstructionist shithole since the hippy era of the 60's that's just been absolutely eating away at intellectualism and filling the cavity with confectionary self-awareness that coyly criticizes everything but absolutely never attempts to bring a solution to the table.
It actually started after WWII. The bombing of London and the German occupation of France sent philosophy into the shitter.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 7:25 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:29 am to SabiDojo
Its just more Post-Modernism Bullsh*t...
I cannot wait for this movement to be driven from western civilization.
donald trump first president turn postmodernism on itself
article - the federalist
I cannot wait for this movement to be driven from western civilization.
donald trump first president turn postmodernism on itself
article - the federalist
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:29 am to ManBearTiger
This thread is useless without pics.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:30 am to Ole War Skule
And, honestly, they all have their roots in Machiavelli.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:39 am to SabiDojo
Well I'd say it has it's place, deconstructionism, nihilism, Machiavellism, but as mainstream guiding schools of thought rather than just tools of appropriate critique- they are just totally corrosive and it seems that deconstructionism has taken over every aspect of critical analysis, which in turn has lead to creativity being shunted towards these retarded anti-philosophies.
It's like drinking Brawndo and saying you might as well be eating brocolli because both contain glucose and all the components of each are found on planet earth and we'll all die anyways and become ingredients in both. So in turn brocolli producers begin watering their crops with Brawndo to make their produce more attractive to know-nothing asswipes with a camera and a microphone and next thing you know we all end up with fields full of Brawndo mud and exactly zero brocolli.
What productive point is actually being made? There is none.
It's like drinking Brawndo and saying you might as well be eating brocolli because both contain glucose and all the components of each are found on planet earth and we'll all die anyways and become ingredients in both. So in turn brocolli producers begin watering their crops with Brawndo to make their produce more attractive to know-nothing asswipes with a camera and a microphone and next thing you know we all end up with fields full of Brawndo mud and exactly zero brocolli.
What productive point is actually being made? There is none.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:43 am to ManBearTiger
You won't get a good response in the OT, but I appreciate you submitting this.
Maybe this branding is relatively new, but being contrarian for no logical reason is part of human nature.
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entire theory of deconstructionism is a 1984-doublespeak-esque way of rebranding tiresome and destructive whining
Maybe this branding is relatively new, but being contrarian for no logical reason is part of human nature.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:52 am to Ole War Skule
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:18 am to ManBearTiger
Agree 100%.
Deconstructionism has become a way to make a career out of being intellectually lazy. More importantly, it has a way of fraying the ties that bind us culturally. I don't even need to tell you how dangerous that is.
Deconstructionism has become a way to make a career out of being intellectually lazy. More importantly, it has a way of fraying the ties that bind us culturally. I don't even need to tell you how dangerous that is.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:17 am to ManBearTiger
Post of the day.
I read it all. Nice job.
I think similarly. I think every society should have the proper balance of do-ers and critics. Unfortunately, we are out of balance these days. There are far too many critics. And I won't be a hypocrite. I, just like everyone on this site, am a critic. I give my opinion on things and I tear ideas and people down. And I do that at a far greater rate than I produce ideas and build things up.
The world of instant communication is exposing us to ideas that we disagree with at a rate never before seen in history. It also exposes our own ideas to more people that will disagree with them than at any other point in the past.
I think, to be successful at propagating ideas in this environment, one must realize the rate at which people with disagree with an idea. And to disregard it. To plow forward anyhow.
I was always taught that in any group of 10 people, two will usually like your idea right away. Two will hate it, no matter what the idea is, and six won't care either way. The trick is to keep this in perspective. You're not pitching your idea to the 20% that hate it. You don't need to win over the 20% that like it. You need to win over about 1/3 of those that are on the fence. That's it. And it's not that hard. So focus on that.
The modern marketplace of ideas is not the place to waffle and wobble. You must be more resolute than ever, and learn to ignore the anklebiters.
I read it all. Nice job.
I think similarly. I think every society should have the proper balance of do-ers and critics. Unfortunately, we are out of balance these days. There are far too many critics. And I won't be a hypocrite. I, just like everyone on this site, am a critic. I give my opinion on things and I tear ideas and people down. And I do that at a far greater rate than I produce ideas and build things up.
The world of instant communication is exposing us to ideas that we disagree with at a rate never before seen in history. It also exposes our own ideas to more people that will disagree with them than at any other point in the past.
I think, to be successful at propagating ideas in this environment, one must realize the rate at which people with disagree with an idea. And to disregard it. To plow forward anyhow.
I was always taught that in any group of 10 people, two will usually like your idea right away. Two will hate it, no matter what the idea is, and six won't care either way. The trick is to keep this in perspective. You're not pitching your idea to the 20% that hate it. You don't need to win over the 20% that like it. You need to win over about 1/3 of those that are on the fence. That's it. And it's not that hard. So focus on that.
The modern marketplace of ideas is not the place to waffle and wobble. You must be more resolute than ever, and learn to ignore the anklebiters.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:19 am to ManBearTiger
I can't take your essay seriously when you didn't even mention Concordianism.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:45 am to SpqrTiger
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I was always taught that in any group of 10 people, two will usually like your idea right away. Two will hate it, no matter what the idea is, and six won't care either way. The trick is to keep this in perspective. You're not pitching your idea to the 20% that hate it. You don't need to win over the 20% that like it. You need to win over about 1/3 of those that are on the fence. That's it. And it's not that hard. So focus on that.
Never heard this before, good insight and makes a lot of sense
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