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re: DEA to ban Kratom
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:37 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:37 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
quote:Yeah you are 100% right. As a profession drug dealer, you got to sell the professional drugs, like fent and oxy's, xanax,etc.
We don't deal with these silly gas station drugs.
to your drug dealing profession! How many people have you got hooked?This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 4:38 pm
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:50 pm to BamaChick
Well frick me. I hate this fricking state sometimes.
They drastically changed the state law on opiates around that time too. Which fricked over a ton of people.
Gadsden had all of two pain clinics, and both were shut down by the state on the same weekend. What are people supposed to do?
My family doc was prescribing me 40mg of norco, and 200mg of tramadol per day. Now he can only give me one of those because tramadol is now on the same level as morphine in Alabama.
They did this because of public outcry regarding pain pills and heroin usage, but all this is going to do is drive more people to heroin. It's bass ackwards.
I have a cousin who is a state rep, my dad and I are planning on talking to him about trying to fight all of this in the near future.
They drastically changed the state law on opiates around that time too. Which fricked over a ton of people.
Gadsden had all of two pain clinics, and both were shut down by the state on the same weekend. What are people supposed to do?
My family doc was prescribing me 40mg of norco, and 200mg of tramadol per day. Now he can only give me one of those because tramadol is now on the same level as morphine in Alabama.
They did this because of public outcry regarding pain pills and heroin usage, but all this is going to do is drive more people to heroin. It's bass ackwards.
I have a cousin who is a state rep, my dad and I are planning on talking to him about trying to fight all of this in the near future.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:59 pm to VaBamaMan
Yep.
My pain doc in Decatur is great. It's the bad docs - like the ones in Jasper and Mobile who got busted by the DEA last year - who have made it super hard for the good pain docs to practice medicine.
My doc has people driving from 2-3 hours away to be seen by him because he still treats his patients but makes sure to check every stupid box they are forcing him to check now.
Alabama needed to do something - we had the highest rate of opioids prescribed per capita in the nation but they've gone way overboard and real patients are suffering because of it.
I'm a pharma rep and I sell in the pain specialty so a lot of the docs are more forthcoming with me than a lot of regular patients. The good ones are starting to come together to try and lobby and influence lawmakers to roll back some of the ridiculous new restrictions. I hope y'all can get your cousin on board - the lawmakers in this state need to hear from real pain docs and pain patients and not just listen to their holy rolling voters who have no idea what patients and docs have to deal with.
My pain doc in Decatur is great. It's the bad docs - like the ones in Jasper and Mobile who got busted by the DEA last year - who have made it super hard for the good pain docs to practice medicine.
My doc has people driving from 2-3 hours away to be seen by him because he still treats his patients but makes sure to check every stupid box they are forcing him to check now.
Alabama needed to do something - we had the highest rate of opioids prescribed per capita in the nation but they've gone way overboard and real patients are suffering because of it.
I'm a pharma rep and I sell in the pain specialty so a lot of the docs are more forthcoming with me than a lot of regular patients. The good ones are starting to come together to try and lobby and influence lawmakers to roll back some of the ridiculous new restrictions. I hope y'all can get your cousin on board - the lawmakers in this state need to hear from real pain docs and pain patients and not just listen to their holy rolling voters who have no idea what patients and docs have to deal with.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:29 pm to DawgGONIT
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Yet there are tons of videos of children having seizures up to hundreds a day, taking cannabis (that doesn't get them high) and stopping completely down to just a few a month/year. They are fricking heartless on top of all your descriptions and then some.
A disgusting agency that doesn't even bother to hide its contempt for patients or any citizens. It's crystal clear in it's treatment of cannabis and now by outlawing an even milder plant for no actual reason.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:34 pm to efrad
quote:
I've never tried Kratom, but Kava is AWESOME for anxiety.
Can you recomment any supplements that contain Kava that would help with anxiety.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:34 pm to BamaChick
quote:
Alabama needed to do something - we had the highest rate of opioids prescribed per capita in the nation but they've gone way overboard and real patients are suffering because of it.
I think this goes hand in hand with the high obesity rate. Having a lot of weight ends up hurting your back, knees, hips, ankles....etc.
Personally, I beat my body up doing hard labor work when I was younger, and then destroyed my shoulder a few years ago. But this all effects my dad more. He was recently diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia, which is nicknamed "the suicide disease".
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:37 pm to DawgGONIT
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However remember it is the DEA telling you about it, so facts will be skewed or ignored.
I'm not a drug user but these clowns just exist to do the bidding of big pharma now. With each year I trust the govmt less and less.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 7:44 pm to onelochevy
quote:
Can you recomment any supplements that contain Kava that would help with anxiety.
Unfortunately, I cannot. I've never tried them. I've heard that the supplements that contain kava don't work nearly as well as traditional methods of drinking kava.
When I tried kava I did it in the traditional manner; that is, I bought ground kava root, put it in a cloth bag with fine holes (sold specifically for kava extraction), placed it in cold water and kneaded the bag in the water for several minutes. After, I drank the water.
It's disgusting, but knocked my anxiety out completely.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:00 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:
of norco, and 200mg of tramadol per day. Now he can only give me one of those because tramadol is now on the same level as morphine in
I always thought tramadol was about as useful as aspirin for both pain and recreation. Maybe some addict somewhere found a way to get high off them, I dunno, but scheduling tramadol seemed almost as retarded as scheduling pot and Kratom.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:38 pm to DawgGONIT
I tried it once. Didn't like it, but much much safer than opiates.
The DEA sucks, they have no real plan, just revenue collection, how else to do that but make more criminals. FWIW it's been banned for people in Drug Court for years.
The DEA sucks, they have no real plan, just revenue collection, how else to do that but make more criminals. FWIW it's been banned for people in Drug Court for years.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:40 pm to BamaChick
I remember like'03 or '04 they had "pain management clinics" and you went in and paid they talked to you for like a minute and gave you a pre-printed Rx to fill.
Hydrocodone, Carisoprodol and Alprazolam.
Hydrocodone, Carisoprodol and Alprazolam.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:46 pm to Napoleon
So disappointing. shite really is a great drug, can't overdose, can't abuse, after 4 straight days, I feel nothing. It's not unhealthy, locals chew it daily for a life time with no side effects. It could easily take storm nationwide as a pain headache reliever.
Guess I'll buy a key. They'll be giving it away.
Tianeptine is an alternative, but is man made. It's stronger and only take 1 pill. But there's no history on it, and no telling what it does to you long-term. It was made for a Russian astronauts in the late 60s or something.
Guess I'll buy a key. They'll be giving it away.
Tianeptine is an alternative, but is man made. It's stronger and only take 1 pill. But there's no history on it, and no telling what it does to you long-term. It was made for a Russian astronauts in the late 60s or something.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:49 pm to Rust Cohle
But, many states have passed their own legislation on the herb. Will it be like marijuana Where it's up to the state
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:52 pm to DawgGONIT
I want to try this someone hit me with a legit link
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:05 pm to Rust Cohle
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But, many states have passed their own legislation on the herb. Will it be like marijuana Where it's up to the state
Even if it is still legal in certain states, how will the state get the kratom? It has to shipped in and I doubt the Feds will let that happen as they are busting vendors all the time it seems or delaying product.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:11 pm to DawgGONIT
I bought a shite load of kratom powder back when you could buy it on amazon and I packed it into capsules. Got a few hundred of them in a cabinet and I pop a few every couple weeks or so. Gives my a nice little buzz after a tough day. Pretty sad to hear about this
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:33 pm to 504ByrdGang
LINK / They are more expensive but good.
You can get 5, 25g sample pack for $55. You might feel 3-5g dose. So $2 a dose. The heaviest users only use 10g because it has a ceiling effect. Less is more. After so much it's just a waste.
Other places you can get kilos for around $100. That's 30 cents to 1 dollar dose. Dirt cheap!
You can get 5, 25g sample pack for $55. You might feel 3-5g dose. So $2 a dose. The heaviest users only use 10g because it has a ceiling effect. Less is more. After so much it's just a waste.
Other places you can get kilos for around $100. That's 30 cents to 1 dollar dose. Dirt cheap!
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:45 pm to biglego
quote:
always thought tramadol was about as useful as aspirin for both pain and recreation.
It is, if you only take 1 50mg tablet. I take 400mg at once, sometimes more.
But my body is very different than most folks. I take enough to induce seizures in most people. If I didn't know any better I would say I was part bear.
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