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DEA to ban Kratom
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:58 pm
Anyone else loves the DEA's approach to the heroin epidemic as they are planning on making kratom a schedule 1 drug in 1 month.
Their reasoning is that a lot of heroin users are turning to kratom instead. Well frick yeah that is the point you dumbasses! No one will die from kratom, but how many die from heroin or drugs being sold as heroin? Kratom is much harmless than any opiates the BIG PHARM produces, but then that is what this is all about. Big Pharm can't have you doing a plant for pain management, when you could be instead buying their drugs.
Anyone here use kratom? There are sites out there to sign a petition, but what good will that do? But I signed it.
LINK
Their reasoning is that a lot of heroin users are turning to kratom instead. Well frick yeah that is the point you dumbasses! No one will die from kratom, but how many die from heroin or drugs being sold as heroin? Kratom is much harmless than any opiates the BIG PHARM produces, but then that is what this is all about. Big Pharm can't have you doing a plant for pain management, when you could be instead buying their drugs.
Anyone here use kratom? There are sites out there to sign a petition, but what good will that do? But I signed it.
LINK
Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:59 pm to DawgGONIT
What is it and where can I buy it?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:00 pm to DawgGONIT
I've used it. Lots of people have recovered from pill addiction with it..
frick the DEA
frick the DEA
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:01 pm to DawgGONIT
that's a link to the petition. Where is the actual story link?
This subject interests me a great deal.
This subject interests me a great deal.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:01 pm to DawgGONIT
from a constitutional amendment to national legislation per drug to an unaccountable bureaucratic agency deciding what is and isn't allowed to be consumed
#Progress
#Progress
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:05 pm to DawgGONIT
Link to where they said they're going to reschedule it?
I thought I read about them rescheduling it months ago and they didn't do it.
I thought I read about them rescheduling it months ago and they didn't do it.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:07 pm to DawgGONIT
Thats dissapointing. A lot of people use it to get off of pills and heroin. It always gives me a migraine though
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:08 pm to PuntBamaPunt
quote:It is a tree that grows in the rain forest of Indonesia, Thailand, Borneo and others in that area. The leaves are harvested and dried out in the sun and then it is ground up and taken internally or made into a tea. Fresh leaves can be used like dip and held in the mouth and swallow the juices.
What is it and where can I buy it?
The plant provides pain relief as its main benefit, but it also provides some energy, and it can help one sleep. It also is used to help quit opiates as it somewhat plays on some of the same receptors. Many people use kratom to help get off opiates for this reason as it is a very gentle plant compared to worse withdrawals. Even quitting kratom cold turkey doesn't produce much withdrawals and are childs play compared to heroin and the likes. Kratom could be used to take the place of subxones and methadone clinics, and at a fraction of the cost. One can get buy ounces online for as cheap as a couple of dollars when in bulk. A person only needs 1-10grams to curb withdrawals, so the cost is very very cheap. Now compare this to methadone clinics and subs and how much they cost daily.
Some users report it being a better for pain than conventional opiates without putting them in a drugged up state. If the gov't really cared about this heroin epidemic, they would endorse kratom instead of banning it. Makes you wonder who is behind all of those sales of heroin and fake heroin which are getting whole cities to overdose and die.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:10 pm to musick
quote:I don't know what story you are looking for, but here is the DEA's website on it. Just scroll down and click on "kratom" and you can read more about it. However remember it is the DEA telling you about it, so facts will be skewed or ignored.
that's a link to the petition. Where is the actual story link?
LINK
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:10 pm to Peepdip
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It always gives me a migraine though
If you take it and drink any beer you'll have a headache.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:14 pm to DawgGONIT
I've used it, but saw no effects even remotely comparable to opiates while taking it. All it did was give me a light, but itchy, rash.
It is a cousin of the coffee plant if my memory serves me correctly. Did a lot of reading up on it. It is pretty harmless.
I have a hard time believing it was worth the DEA scheduling. But they do get a lot of pressure from the upper middle class stay at home moms on this stuff. They are one reason Alabama has gotten so strict on opiates lately. The state is driving people to heroin, and are oblivious. Believe it or not, some people actually do NEED opiates.
It is a cousin of the coffee plant if my memory serves me correctly. Did a lot of reading up on it. It is pretty harmless.
I have a hard time believing it was worth the DEA scheduling. But they do get a lot of pressure from the upper middle class stay at home moms on this stuff. They are one reason Alabama has gotten so strict on opiates lately. The state is driving people to heroin, and are oblivious. Believe it or not, some people actually do NEED opiates.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:15 pm to DawgGONIT
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Their reasoning is that a lot of heroin users are turning to kratom instead.
TINFOIL HAT [ON] OFF
That takes money out of the government's pockets. Our government didn't go to Afghanistan and start growing & guarding poppy fields again just to have addicts use Kratom. Does anyone actually believe that Afghanis have the means to manufacture heroin or the logistical infrastructure in place to transport it?
The CIA and federal government have to finance their off the books "wars", offensives, and black ops somehow and just like they did with Coke and Crack in the ghettos in the 80s, they are doing with heroin in the suburbs now.
Think I am a conspiracy nut? Maybe. But Google Images Afghanistan Poppy Fields and look at all the pictures of US troops guarding the Poppy fields that are now active, compared to when the Taliban was in charge and growing Poppy was illegal and the fields were dormant.
War for oil or WMD? Not hardly
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:17 pm to DawgGONIT
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Makes you wonder who is behind all of those sales of heroin
Well we've been in control of the largest poppy fields on earth located in Afghanistan since early 2002.
Follow the money baw
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:17 pm to DawgGONIT
Chem Trails were used to bring down WTC 7 by big Pharma....
Rabble, rabble, rabble...
Rabble, rabble, rabble...
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:18 pm to DawgGONIT
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The leaves are harvested and dried out in the sun and then it is ground up and taken internally or made into a tea. Fresh leaves can be used like dip and held in the mouth and swallow the juices.
The powder is incredibly disgusting, and is almost like a thicker flower in consistency. I have no idea how people use it to make tea. It tastes horrible. Trying to get 8-10mg of powder down my craw was nigh impossible. Managed it a few times, and it wasn't worth the work. At least for me.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:20 pm to DawgGONIT
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I don't know what story you are looking for, but here is the DEA's website on it. Just scroll down and click on "kratom" and you can read more about it. However remember it is the DEA telling you about it, so facts will be skewed or ignored.
You said in the OP that the DEA plans on scheduling it as schedule I next month. Where is that story? The link you gave is just a generic drug factsheet from last year.
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