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Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13962 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:28 pm to
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Gas at <$2 /gallon = death of hybrid.


Exactly, it's about time....

Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:01 pm to
i know two people who HAD hybrids. Both had issues a typical fossil fuel burning car would not have and have since both sold the cars.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24186 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:05 pm to
I'll do a Tesla before a hybrid
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39062 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:17 pm to
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toyota Camry

quote:

I love mine.


You LOVE a Camry? I hated the one we had. It was a 'nice' car, but it drove like a TPOS.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:18 pm to
I've had a Camry hybrid since 2011. Company provided car--I've had two. I love them. Far more powerful than you would expect, great MPG (obvi), and mine has a lot of luxury features... Smooth drive and incredibly dependable.

So, I highly recommend.

ETA: apparently yall have experienced battery issues? I don't get to keep them past 60-70k and/or 2 years. So perhaps I'm not making it to the battery issue point. Knock on wood..
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2989 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:56 pm to
Don't worry people, the average fuel economy has to be 54mpg by 2025 so look for some major breakthroughs in the laws of physics in the coming years or we're all gonna be driving hybrids.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72177 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:02 pm to
Scruffy has a 06 Civic Hybrid. Only gets mid-30s in town. Costs less than $20 to fill up though. Love that car.
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
2949 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:05 pm to
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financed $5,000 over 3 years.


Lol u poor
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78352 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:08 pm to
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this is going to get really good
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28316 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:14 pm to
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54mpg by 2025


I'm gonna by a bunch of big-arse V-8's before then.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10572 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:32 pm to
I love my TDI.. I get 50 MPG on the highway.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:43 pm to
My TDI Jetta w/ manual transmission waverages 53mpg from BR to Nola In the morning and 49mpg from NOLA to BR in the evening.

If you back it down to about 60mph it will do 60mpg on the right day.

And it hauls arse for being a little economy car. It's no tire burner or anything, but it will scoot.
Posted by DSS50
Member since Jan 2012
220 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:44 pm to
Not sure what your problem is with my post.
I said 1-battery issues may come up but haven't yet. 2- my views are all I have and 3- we are close with Price LeBlanc and they called and offered to buy back our Prius so we sold it and got a new one. Actually, my hub got an email about buying back our new one. I just gave a view based on the original post. Excuuuuse me.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 4:20 pm to
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I'll do a Tesla before a hybrid


Six figures to drive nowhere before the battery dies.

Even at $4 a gallon it's not worth it.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71365 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 4:34 pm to
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Some of us drive Hybrids to be green( I know- you all hate SJW's!)


That's the worst reason to buy a hybrid. They're no better from an environmental standpoint.

The point is to save money on gas if you have to do a great deal of driving (and with $2/gallon, that's not as much of a benefit anymore.)
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 4:40 pm to
I'm still laughing at all of you. I bought a diesel Cayenne - cost less than a hybrid Cayenne and gets just as good of gas mileage - with same amount of emissions. Plus -- those I don't have the expense of replacing batteries and putting those toxic boxes back into the earth.
Hybrids are for demo wannabe feelgoods. At the moment there is better green tech.
Hopefully, the battery tech will get better, but right now -- it is not.
But don't worry hybrid drivers, we're not laughing at you (mmmmmhrmmmpppphhhhh)
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38777 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:25 pm to
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replacing batteries and putting those toxic boxes back into the earth.


Actually, hybrid batteries are not toxic and can be disposed of in a regular landfill. But they are 70-100% recyclable and so hardly anything goes into a landfill.

I did the numbers when we bought my wife's new car a few years ago when gas was pushing $4. She commutes about 20 miles RT and a hybrid made no sense.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10572 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:08 pm to
I've got the DSG transmission. I hit the 40k mark and it needed servicing, the dealership quoted $500 for transmission alone. Needless to say I learned to service it myself with a quickness.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:25 pm to
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purchased a 2008 toyota Camry hybrid about a year ago. Getting around 40hwy and 40 in-town MPG. I always wanted a hybrid before owning one (especially when gas was $4/gal) and looked for them when driving but since owning one I don't see as many on the road as I thought I would have. Mostly Prius, hardly ever see the Camry hybrid. What are people thoughts now on hybrids now that gas is much cheaper?


Because unless you do the vast majority of your driving in stop & go traffic the hybrid doesn't save you any money. Especially after the tax credit for regular hybrids (the non-plug in kind) ended in 2011. Of course it all depends on driving habits, how maintenance, and a bunch of other factors, but for most models it makes more financial sense to buy the traditional gas version.

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Consumer demand and government regulation has led to the most fuel-efficient cars in history. With an average transaction price of $32,000, new cars are the most expensive in history as well. But it’s offset by reduced operating expenses, especially in the case of hybrids.

The average premium for a hybrid is $4,647 more than gas-only counterparts, according to a late 2013 analysis done by Vincentric.

The same study reported that five years of ownership at 15,000 miles in a hybrid car will result in an average fuel cost savings of $3,371. Therefore, the average hybrid premium doesn’t make sense for a dozen or so models, including inefficient and expensive hybrids such as the full-size SUV Chevrolet Tahoe or Cadillac Escalade, which is why GM discontinued them in model year 2013.

Some hybrids, such as the 2013 Lexus CT 200h can save nearly $6,500 compared to the Lexus IS 250 in reduced operating costs. The Lincoln MKZ hybrid saves nearly $5,000 over the gas counterpart because the sticker price is nearly the same.
LINK

That study was done before the price of gas fell so there is even less savings now.
Why hybrids & diesels don't always save $$$. Those numbers were run at a hypothetical $5/gal and it was taking most hybrids 4-6 years for the driver to actually break even.


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