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re: Could you ever be forced into a confession?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:37 pm to OweO
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:37 pm to OweO
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If I am being waterboarded with someone sticking needles in my nuts and pouring rubbing alcohol on them with some dude is butt arse naked waiting to put his penis in my mouth after I am waterboarded..
I don't know, that sounds pretty hot, if you ask me.
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:37 pm to Peazey
I have (at least slightly) above Brendan Dassey intelligence and I was once almost tricked into confessing of a crime that I did not even commit. Granted, I was hammered when questioning took place- but cops are tricky. I can only imagine professional interrogators.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:38 pm to ClientNumber9
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without torture, beatings, days of sleep deprivation, etc.
0% chance
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:38 pm to JetFuelTyga
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I have (at least slightly) above Brendan Dassey intelligence and I was once almost tricked into confessing of a crime that I did not even commit
Can you share more details? This sounds intriguing.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:40 pm to ClientNumber9
I could see someone being tricked into releasing a detail that would look bad for them even if they didn't do it. Something the prosecution can use to spin a theory. Although I think I'd ask for a lawyer if it ever got close to that. So I don't see it happening to me.
But I can't see just signing an outright lie of a confession or something. That's just absurd. Especially in the Knox documentary where she said she did it because they convinced her that she had. That she thought it was something she may have forgotten about or something. I think only idiots can have that happen to them. But, I think 80%+ of the human population are idiots, so there's that.
But I can't see just signing an outright lie of a confession or something. That's just absurd. Especially in the Knox documentary where she said she did it because they convinced her that she had. That she thought it was something she may have forgotten about or something. I think only idiots can have that happen to them. But, I think 80%+ of the human population are idiots, so there's that.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:46 pm to shel311
I'd have to ask the details of ancient history, but I am under the impression that he was offered an expungeable with probation, and he took it rather than risk fighting it. I also think his attorney may have been incompetent. I know the attorney fricked up filing the paperwork to have it expunged when the probation was over, and he had to personally follow up on it.
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:52 pm to tigersownall
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Like some Spanish Inquisition shite. No. I'd die.
Waterboard you using gasoline and I bet you would talk.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:52 pm to ClientNumber9
Not that exciting of a story- sorry to lead you on. Leaving Venetian in Vegas about 6 in the morning walking to Caesar's where I am staying. Fall victim to an attempted armed robbery outside of casino, fight guy off until casino security makes it outside (luckily only about 20 seconds). As security comes out, he slings own wallet about 15 yards from the scuffle (I'm guessing to create the illusion that we were fighting for his wallet?- which was successful). They review security footage, ultimately let the guy go and I get LVPD called on me. Came in with good cop/bad cop telling me they have footage of me picking up his wallet (lie), asking me if it would be in my nature to pick up someone's wallet (yes, to be helpful), if I had ever made bad decisions before while drinking (duh), etc. By the end of it, they legitimately had me questioning if I tried to steal this dude's wallet. Ended up being cleared after further review of surveillance vid.
Tl;DR- Vegas cops are dicks and I think people can more easily be coerced to confess than most of you think, especially while intoxicated.
Tl;DR- Vegas cops are dicks and I think people can more easily be coerced to confess than most of you think, especially while intoxicated.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:11 pm to shel311
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But if I had a lawyer and a situation played out where I could confess and get some plea for probation or minimal jail time or risk 20+ or life in jail or something crazy like that, I'd confess in a heartbeat. Risk/reward.
Then you better make sure the DA or an ADA is present because they make those deals, not the police.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:52 pm to ClientNumber9
No.
"I need to speak with my attorney" is the only phrase that I will utter to the police under questioning.
"I need to speak with my attorney" is the only phrase that I will utter to the police under questioning.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:36 pm to alphaandomega
I am a man of morals sir.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:37 pm to ClientNumber9
no, because I have the double naught spy gene 
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:47 pm to JetFuelTyga
Crazy story and yeah, I could see how that could happen. Pretty soon, I bet you're like, "Wait- maybe I was trying to steal this guy's wallet." Glad it worked out for you.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:09 pm to ClientNumber9
I think y'all would be surprised if you haven't ever been interrogated. I know it sounds unbelievable, but having gone through it as an innocent person, and NOT confessing, it's MUCH more difficult than you would think. It's one of "those things" where you'd have to experience it to really understand. Suffice it to say that prior to going through it, I thought the concept of forced confessions was one of the biggest BS claims out there. Now, I am of a completely different mind about it.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:15 pm to ClientNumber9
No, because I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I had to deal with cops. I've watched that show "The First 48" and it amazes how dumb TPOS really are. They're getting question by the police regarding a murder and still talk without counsel. They're facing life behind bars and still place themselves to being present at the scene of the murder. Most of these, if not all the TPOS are guilty AF, their rash ignorance on the legal system is entwining to watch.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:17 pm to Breauxsif
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No, because I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I had to deal with cops.
All it takes is someone in your circle to die. You don't have to do anything to be considered a suspect.
Anyone can get forced into a confession. They use proven tactics to get one out of you.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:20 pm to ClientNumber9
There are a large number of cases where innocent people have not only confessed but even become convinced they are actually guilty.
Memories have more plasticity than you might intuitively believe. When you remember and think about something you access it in a way that allows it to be modofied.
Memories have more plasticity than you might intuitively believe. When you remember and think about something you access it in a way that allows it to be modofied.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:21 pm to ClientNumber9
Any day now
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:25 pm to ScopeCreep
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"I need to speak with my attorney" is the only phrase that I will utter to the police under questioning.
This and "stop asking me questions, please."
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:30 pm to ClientNumber9
I was part of a situation that makes me think its possible.
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