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re: Cops beat the crap out of woman for not wearing her seatbelt
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:12 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:12 pm to CAD703X
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i dont antagonize cops and in fact the opposite. i assume they've had a shitty day and go out of my way to be pleasant.
i know..boot licker and all but i've never had a bad experience even when a cop comes at me pissed off which has happened a couple times.
shrugs: thats just me. i'd rather not tempt fate to (potentially) have my life ruined by fricking with a cop.
I agree.
And I think its absolutely fricked up we have to have this mentality in this country.
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:14 pm to TheCaterpillar
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And I think its absolutely fricked up we have to have this mentality in this country.
fight the injustice in court in front of a judge who actually knows the law.
dont assume some podunk cop knows the ins-and-outs of every law on the books and make a stand in a stressful situation.
thats just dumb.
eta reminds me of that youtube video where those 3-4 guys walked behind a couple of cops calling them motheruckers and pigs for a good 5 minutes.
WTF is your end game?
i actually enjoy my freedom. crazy i know.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:16 pm to CAD703X
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fight the injustice in court in front of a judge who actually knows the law.
dont assume some podunk cop knows the ins-and-outs of every law on the books and make a stand in a stressful situation.
thats just dumb.
Its not about knowing the law. Its about having to walk on egg-shells around cops for fear of them just making shite up about you because they need the numbers or are having a bad day.
Before body cameras, it was their word vs. yours in court and they win 100% of the time.
That's power that will corrupt nearly anyone, ESPECIALLY cops with an IQ lower than their drug dogs. I really think the body cameras will help stop a lot of it if they are enforced to be on at all times.
I still walk on egg shells and am overly polite with cops because I'm scared of them. That is my point. I love my freedom too and can swallow my pride and stroke their ego because of that, but I just think its fricked up that I have to.
I won't do anything about it because there's nothing that I can do and I just don't care enough. Doesn't mean I don't think its fricked up.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:18 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Its not about knowing the law. Its about having to walk on egg-shells around cops for fear of them just making shite up about you because they need the numbers or are having a bad day.
so in this situation she was walking on egg shells?
how about she treat the policeman with respect like she would her next door neighbor or the stray cat she's feeding behind her house?
when did being respectful to a civil servant = egg-shells?
i guarantee you start shite with a TSA agent in the airport and you WILL have a felony.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:18 pm to CAD703X
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fight the injustice in court in front of a judge who actually knows the law.
Until recent video evidence proving shady copping was available, this was basically impossible.
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dont assume some podunk cop knows the ins-and-outs of every law on the books and make a stand in a stressful situation
Agreed that this is the smart approach, but we should not have to be so wary of pissing off a trained professional who is supposed to be the cooler head. Their training tells them to diffuse situations, yet you so often don't see them doing this. I also don't find it acceptable how little so many cops know about the actual laws.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:18 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Dude, I am in favor of the cops here. Clearly the women needed a few fists to her face for moving her lips. Like I said earlier hopefully her crying children got the message not to second guess the cops.
I was suggesting Scotland because another poster said they didn't want to live in a country where this takes place.
Like you and some other guys here I see no problem with dindunothins getting beat down for disrespecting the good law abiding police we have.
If that's the type country you want to live in, I suggest you look into moving to North Korea.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:21 pm to CAD703X
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so in this situation she was walking on egg shells?
No. You're having a hard time following me today CAD. She did what you shouldn't do. I agree with that. She antagonized the cops.
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when did being respectful to a civil servant = egg-shells?
Respectful is one thing, being terrified of civil servants is another. They demand fear, not respect.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:22 pm to Darth_Vader
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If that's the type country you want to live in, I suggest you look into moving to North Korea.
We've had this type of discussion before Darth...
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:24 pm to TheCaterpillar
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They demand fear, not respect.
i disagree. fear implies that the cop is going to bust out my brake light, throw a gun on the ground and handcuff me when he pulls me over.
respect implies i'm getting pulled over and before i get on my high horse and assume i dindu nuffin, maybe i'll let the cop tell me what i did and if its wrong, fight it in court.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:44 pm to CAD703X
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i disagree. fear implies that the cop is going to bust out my brake light, throw a gun on the ground and handcuff me when he pulls me over.
No, fear is having to have a discussion on this board about how we understand it's smarter to go out of one's way to be polite and as even keeled as possible when dealing with a LEO because you never know what they may do. You've said as much yourself, and I agree.
The fact that we all understand that is the problem.
I should not be worried as an American citizen that a trained police officer having a "bad day" is gonna yank me from my vehicle and wail on me because I am ALSO having a bad day and I dare to question him doing his job.
But it's true...I'm 45 and have had very few interactions with LEO's. Most of them were fine, some were shitty and NONE of them were escalated by me. But each and EVERY time, I've gone out of my way to treat them as you would a 2 year old on the verge of having a break down in a grocery store...if that 2 year old could also shoot on you in the face if you posed some nebulous threat. That's no way to have to live in a free society.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:04 pm to Darth_Vader
That cop's hands must be rougher than 80 grit sandpaper. I won't mess with him.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:26 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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But each and EVERY time, I've gone out of my way to treat them as you would a 2 year old on the verge of having a break down in a grocery store...if that 2 year old could also shoot on you in the face if you posed some nebulous threat. That's no way to have to live in a free society.
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