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re: Cop Shoots Wife in Addis (updated)
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:23 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:23 am to Darth_Vader
quote:
Please tell me you don't seriously believe this.
First step, drop mag.
Second step, clear round.
Third step, set mag and bullets in an area out of reach.
Fourth step, clear again.
Fifth step, point at a backdrop capable of stopping yhe round.
Sixth step, pull trigger.
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:31 am to X123F45
quote:
First step, drop mag.
Second step, clear round.
Third step, set mag and bullets in an area out of reach.
Fourth step, clear again.
Fifth step, point at a backdrop capable of stopping yhe round.
Sixth step, pull trigger.
Believe it or not people forget step 2 more than people would think.
Or they clear the round and then drop the mag.
Typically because they aren't paying attention because they are talking or have some other distraction.
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 9:32 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:35 am to Btrtigerfan
quote:interesting, indeed.
So, a law officer that has hours upon hours of firearms training, accidentally discharges a firearm in the direction of his wife that happens to strike her in a lethal fashion while he was "cleaning" it is dismissed my another law agency is not suspicious?
How many guns have you cleaned loaded, or even intact? The first thing most people do is disassemble it.
We're gonna need a bigger boat.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:45 am to zuluboudreaux
Well if you want to be technical, you have to buy the glock before you can clean it so perhaps I should have included that step too. The point I was making was that you pull the trigger as part of the cleaning process. By failing to confirm the gun was unloaded (first safety failure), that step would cause an accidental discharge. If the gun is pointed at someone when they happens (second safety failure), it would then cause injury.
The point I was making is that everyone assumes that the cop wanted to kill his wife and is blaming an accident. Accidents happen, and if someone gets hurt as a result, that sucks for everyone. But assuming malicious intent without additional information is reaching. By that logic, no person has ever been killed accidentally, every time someone dies from a gun shot, it's because the person who pulled the trigger wanted to kill someone? Or are cops only held to that logic?
The point I was making is that everyone assumes that the cop wanted to kill his wife and is blaming an accident. Accidents happen, and if someone gets hurt as a result, that sucks for everyone. But assuming malicious intent without additional information is reaching. By that logic, no person has ever been killed accidentally, every time someone dies from a gun shot, it's because the person who pulled the trigger wanted to kill someone? Or are cops only held to that logic?
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:54 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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Accidents happen, and if someone gets hurt as a result, that sucks for everyone.
He's supposed to be a professional.
quote:
But assuming malicious intent without additional information is reaching. By that logic, no person has ever been killed accidentally, every time someone dies from a gun shot, it's because the person who pulled the trigger wanted to kill someone? Or are cops only held to that logic?
See above. A lot of mistakes had to be made by a man who is supposed to know how to use that weapon in order for the "accident" to happen. Then the bullet just has to have the terrible odds of striking the person in the room. By your same horrible logic, you have to make a lot of logical assumptions to assume that it was an accident.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:05 am to TigerBait1127
So being a "professional" renders one incapable of accidents? No truck driver has ever killed someone by accident, they specifically intended to kill the victims of accidents they cause? No doctor has ever accidentally killed someone in surgery, they intended to kill their patient? Mistakes can happen to anyone regardless of the amount of experience they may have.
It's pretty horrible logic to assume that simply having received firearms training makes a cop incapable of accidents. No one is perfect and stories like this motivate gun owners to be more diligent in their handling of firearms so that they hopefully never make the same mistake.
It's pretty horrible logic to assume that simply having received firearms training makes a cop incapable of accidents. No one is perfect and stories like this motivate gun owners to be more diligent in their handling of firearms so that they hopefully never make the same mistake.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:07 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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So being a "professional" renders one incapable of accidents?
Is that what I said?
quote:
It's pretty horrible logic to assume that simply having received firearms training makes a cop incapable of accidents. No one is perfect and stories like this motivate gun owners to be more diligent in their handling of firearms so that they hopefully never make the same mistake.
Yea, you can't read
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:09 am to TigerBait1127
And you think cops have extensive firearm training?
I'll yake illiteracy over idiocy.
I'll yake illiteracy over idiocy.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:15 am to X123F45
Did I say extensive?
I'm assuming he has some experience and training. I'm at least assuming he has access to the internet or his gun came with instructions on properly cleaning it.
Certainly more training than the average gun holder
says the cop
Crazy thing about being a professional: if your organization doesn't provide the training, provide it for yourself.
I'm assuming he has some experience and training. I'm at least assuming he has access to the internet or his gun came with instructions on properly cleaning it.
Certainly more training than the average gun holder
quote:
I'll yake illiteracy over idiocy.
says the cop Crazy thing about being a professional: if your organization doesn't provide the training, provide it for yourself.
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:20 am to TigerBait1127
Perhaps I misunderstood your point.
That's right, all terrible mistakes. I thought you were being sarcastic and suggesting these weren't mistakes at all, but a calculated murder blamed on mistakes. And your support for such a position was the assumption that a "professional" is incapable of mistakes and thus this had to be intentional. My point was that mistakes can happen to anyone, no matter the amount of training they have had.
quote:
A lot of mistakes had to be made by a man who is supposed to know how to use that weapon in order for the "accident" to happen. Then the bullet just has to have the terrible odds of striking the person in the room.
That's right, all terrible mistakes. I thought you were being sarcastic and suggesting these weren't mistakes at all, but a calculated murder blamed on mistakes. And your support for such a position was the assumption that a "professional" is incapable of mistakes and thus this had to be intentional. My point was that mistakes can happen to anyone, no matter the amount of training they have had.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:21 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
I'm assuming he has some experience and training.
In Louisiana, you can work for 1 year before being required to be POST certified.
So it is possible he had zero training or experience.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:23 am to TigerBait1127
I have a relative who was active military and was cleaning his personal gun at home. While cleaning it he accidentally shot and killed his best friend.
Obviously he did several things wrong in the cleaning but it was 100% an accident.
Obviously he did several things wrong in the cleaning but it was 100% an accident.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:25 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
I'm at least assuming he has access to the internet or his gun came with instructions on properly cleaning it.
Does every driver consult their vehicle manual every time they drive? Do we blame vehicle collisions on a failure to review the instructions and traffic laws each time before driving? Surely you aren't this obtuse. My assumption is you have very little experience with firearms to not realize how easily mistakes can happen.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:26 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
the terrible odds of striking the person in the room.
How do you know she was in the room? The bullet could have passed through a wall or walls.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:27 am to Btrtigerfan
That's like OJ's knife accidentally slashing Nicole Brown Simpson's throat. OJ was just trying to wipe off the blade. Oops
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:40 am to theenemy
quote:
How do you know she was in the room? The bullet could have passed through a wall or walls.
I don't, but your scenario makes it even more improbable.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:42 am to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:
That's right, all terrible mistakes. I thought you were being sarcastic and suggesting these weren't mistakes at all, but a calculated murder blamed on mistakes. And your support for such a position was the assumption that a "professional" is incapable of mistakes and thus this had to be intentional. My point was that mistakes can happen to anyone, no matter the amount of training they have had.
Right, but here we have mistake after mistake in this scenario including an unlikely ending, probability wise, of a lethal shot.
That's why it is being investigated.
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 10:43 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:46 am to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:
Does every driver consult their vehicle manual every time they drive?
pretty sure we require driving training/test before initially driving And drivers get charged all the time in accidents
quote:
Do we blame vehicle collisions on a failure to review the instructions and traffic laws each time before driving?
Yes, we literally blame the at fault car and driver...
A better comparison would be driving drunk and cleaning a loaded gun. Yea, the driver's intent wasn't to kill the person....
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:50 am to Btrtigerfan
Dude is lucky he is a cop
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:52 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
That's why it is being investigated.
Exactly.
and it is silly to assume that foul play is at hand due to a very short news article.
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