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re: Clay Travis issues challenge in response to Martin Luther Cream"s NFL boycott

Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:45 pm to
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My question is this, Why does SK need to prove his blackness to someone like Clay Travis.

he doesn't

but

there is a VERY real possibility that he's 100% white and has literally lied about his race to get ahead

that's fricked up
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:47 pm to
It's patently absurd that the left wants to cry racism in this scenario, when their go to is, "you have the right to free speech, but others have to right to not do business with you due to that free speech."

Worst case scenario, that's what this situation is. Kaepernick has the right to free speech, but the NFL owners have to right to not do business with him, due to the implications of his "free speech".
Posted by DAbully
Syria
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:47 pm to
I'm simply stating that people who are saying he isn't talented enough to be in league are wrong and that's simply not the case. And people are out there saying it.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:48 pm to
That's a racist tweet. Hinging $50,000 on someone's race is exactly racism. How do you not get this?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:49 pm to
Yeah. Savage is young and hasn't played much, but played well when he did. He's only got room to improve. Kaepernick's been in the league 7-8 years. He's reached his peak...and its not very high.

Bortles is a little different. He hasn't lived up to expectations but isn't a total bust. Tough for Jags to give up early on someone they drafted so highly.
Posted by VaeVictus
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:49 pm to
n/m
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:50 pm to
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My question is this, Why does SK need to prove his blackness to someone like Clay Travis.

If the guy that constantly rails on everything in society as being "cultural theft and appropriation", berates white people for their privilege, and tells everyone that he's black turns out to be a lily white dude, it could be a career killer.




Seriously. If this isn't "cultural appropriation", then no known example exists (if it turns out he's white).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Hinging $50,000 on someone's race is exactly racism. How do you not get this?


if Shaun King is white, how can Clay Travis be racist towards him?

a. SK is white
b. they're of the same race

both remove "racism" from the equation
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:51 pm to
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That's a racist tweet

no
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:51 pm to
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I'm simply stating that people who are saying he isn't talented enough to be in league are wrong and that's simply not the case. And people are out there saying it.


You think he'd get signed if he was willing to play for the league minimum?

Or would the distraction still not be worth it?
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:51 pm to
I think it's funny what NFL owners choose to care about. Let the guys who beat the shite out of their SO's or get DUIs switch teams. But this dude takes a seat/kneels during the pledge. Oh no!
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

if Shaun King is white, how can Clay Travis be racist towards him?

a. SK is white
b. they're of the same race

both remove "racism" from the equation


Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21898 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:51 pm to
Never said he wasn't talented enough to be in the league. I said he wasn't talented enough to be a starter. There's a lot of other NFL backup caliber QBs on the market that won't bring negative PR.
Posted by VaeVictus
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:52 pm to
n/m
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:53 pm to
I don't know too much about SK's background. I've seen some of tweets on issues and they are over the top at times (Similar to hat Deray guy who wears Patagonia all the time). With that being said, what if it comes back that he's 20% black or whatever? Will the internet lose its mind?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:54 pm to
quote:


if Shaun King is white, how can Clay Travis be racist towards him?

a. SK is white
b. they're of the same race

both remove "racism" from the equation
This is not consistent with the definition of the word or my point.

1) The tweet is racist regardless of the race of Travis or King. Pledging to donate money if a person is black enough but no money if he isn't black enough is racist.
2) I never claimed that it is racist against King because that's irrelevant. King stands to gain/lose nothing by this proposition.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

With that being said, what if it comes back that he's 20% black or whatever? Will the internet lose its mind?

I don't think we'll ever know because SK isn't dumb enough to take that challenge. He can't even call up his alleged "father" to ask him what percentage black he is (how convenient).
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

The tweet is racist regardless of the race of Travis or King.

no
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:56 pm to
his family is white
his mother and (legal) father are white

he claims he's black b/c his mom cheated on his dad with a black guy, so i'm not sure what threshold would satisfy everyone, but anything over 12.5% (would make his father 50/50) would certainly back up this story about his mother's affair
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