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re: Chicago releases another vid of police killing unarmed teen running away
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:54 am to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:54 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Indeed parents likely bear some blame. But that does not give the police carte blanche to shoot teems who have bad parents. Nor does it allow police to shoot someone who is unarmed, running away at full speed, not even facing the police. Oh, and unarmed.
Dude, do you know how much an iPhone costs these days?
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:56 am to Topwater Trout
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I have seen some posters mention petty crimes...do people think carjacking is a petty crime?
I would have thought that those people who argue that abortion keeps crime down would be happier about this.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:00 am to Barf
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Every citizen has the right to a fair trial no matter how big of a piece of shite they are.
agreed
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He was just running.
yeh ok...people run for a reason. I don't think the cop was wrong in this case...it was dark, they were chasing a suspect that appeared to have a weapon in his hand. Bottom line is don't run and you won't get shot.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:00 am to LSUTANGERINE
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LSUTANGERINE
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I'll raise you this at about 0:35 shot politely complying with officer
I just got out of a 2 hr youtube wormhole of police shootings. Damn.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:05 am to Topwater Trout
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.it was dark,
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chasing a suspect that appeared to have a weapon in his hand
What if they had been wrong? What if a stray bullet hit your kid in the face? Or worse, hit them in the neck and they had to live out the rest of their life as a carrot. I bet you would be singing a different tune.
The cops got lucky that nobody else was hurt. It was reckless at best but should be criminal. I'm struggling to find a situation outside of an active shooter where shooting a fleeing suspect in the back would be tolerable.
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Bottom line is don't run and you won't get shot.
This is just silly.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:11 am to Barf
I once drank on a beach illegally as I was not 21.
This illegal activity was discovered by a cop.
Being drunk, 18 & stupid, I ran.
I am now a very productive, highly educated asset to society.
Would it have been ok for this cop to have shot me?
This illegal activity was discovered by a cop.
Being drunk, 18 & stupid, I ran.
I am now a very productive, highly educated asset to society.
Would it have been ok for this cop to have shot me?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:35 am to Barf
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What if they had been wrong? What if a stray bullet hit your kid in the face? Or worse, hit them in the neck and they had to live out the rest of their life as a carrot. I bet you would be singing a different tune.
when did I say they should have shot him?
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This is just silly.
is it? I have seen enough videos of cops shooting fleeing suspects to know I will never run b/c it is definitely a possibility that I will get shot...not running makes the chances of me getting shot almost nil
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:01 am to Topwater Trout
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what does that have to do with trying to apprehend a suspect? are you suggesting if they run we should let them go instead of trying to catch them and put them on trial?
I am pretty sure he is just saying don't kill someone if they are running and not a serious threat to others at that point in time.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:04 am to Topwater Trout
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yeh ok...people run for a reason. I don't think the cop was wrong in this case...it was dark, they were chasing a suspect that appeared to have a weapon in his hand. Bottom line is don't run and you won't get shot.
Folks, meet bootlicker #3. Looked pretty light in the video.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:08 am to Salamander_Wilson
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I once drank on a beach illegally as I was not 21. This illegal activity was discovered by a cop. Being drunk, 18 & stupid, I ran. I am now a very productive, highly educated asset to society. Would it have been ok for this cop to have shot me?
According to at least three here, a resounding yes, especially if you had a bottle or wallet in your hand when running full speed and your back to the blue.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 10:11 am
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:13 am to LSUTANGERINE
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I am pretty sure he is just saying don't kill someone if they are running and not a serious threat to others at that point in time.
how would anyone know this but the pursuing officer?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:14 am to LSUTANGERINE
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meet bootlicker #3
ah there it is...the morons are coming forward.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:21 am to Topwater Trout
I didn't watch the video. Ain't got time for that. But if the cops were pursuing a guy for a carjacking and he had a gun in his hand then yeah he's a threat. He's already shown a willingness to use his gun.
Is that what happened? I have a strict never-click-on-links policy that I won't break.
Is that what happened? I have a strict never-click-on-links policy that I won't break.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:23 am to Topwater Trout
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how would anyone know this but the pursuing officer?
Are you for real? That is a really dumb question. How does a police officer know that anyone walking down the street isn't a threat. I understand what you are trying to say, but the logic is flawed. Thankfully it was well established 240 years ago that police don't get to make that call.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:31 am to biglego
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Is that what happened?
no...guy was suspected in a car jacking and ran (to me or a cop pursuing would make me think he was running because he was the carjacker). It was dark and according to the cop he saw something black in his hand...seeing that he thought he was a carjacker it is reasonable to think officer thought the object was a gun and not a cell phone.
My whole problem with the people who say cop was wrong is they never allow the "victim" to have any responsibility for the shooting...whether it be the crime they committed to be wanted by the police or the actions of trying to get away.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:33 am to Topwater Trout
Nice job in the other thread. Mission accomplished
end hijack Mr Dindu
end hijack Mr Dindu
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:33 am to Barf
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Are you for real? That is a really dumb question.
you seem to have established he wasn't a threat based on a 15 second video
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:39 am to Topwater Trout
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no...guy was suspected in a car jacking and ran (to me or a cop pursuing would make me think he was running because he was the carjacker). It was dark and according to the cop he saw something black in his hand...seeing that he thought he was a carjacker it is reasonable to think officer thought the object was a gun and not a cell phone.
My whole problem with the people who say cop was wrong is they never allow the "victim" to have any responsibility for the shooting...whether it be the crime they committed to be wanted by the police or the actions of trying to get away.
I think it's clear that you refuse to look at this objectively. Which is fine, you have that right. You also have the right to a fair trial and I sincerely hope if you ever find yourself being accused of a crime, guilty or wrongfully accused, you are given the opportunity to defend yourself.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:44 am to Topwater Trout
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you seem to have established he wasn't a threat based on a 15 second video
Well, it would be impossible to tell if he was a threat. It was dark, and he was fleeing. You have to assume he was not a threat because there is no evidence that suggests otherwise. If I can't tell after watching the video dozens of time, then the guy with 90 days of cop school can't tell either. I just happen to have the benefit of a video where as the police officer had to make a split second decision.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:45 am to LSUTANGERINE
dont care. shouldnt had ran
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