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re: Causeway Air Patrols Should Start This Week

Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:58 am to
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:58 am to
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probably done for public safety and not a revenue stream.

After the first few times it will act as a deterrent. Something needs to be done to cut down on the accidents and this is probably the cheapest option.



How about this - instead of parking at the crossovers where everyone knows they are, have the officers actually drive and patrol the bridge. The speeders speed in between the crossovers. If the officers were driving they could A) pull over anyone that overtakes them and B) act like pace cars if this is really about public safety. Also if they are out on the road they can more easily spot those on their phones than if they are sitting at a crossover with cars going by them at 65 MPH
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:59 am to
That's why I said "and generally ignoring their surroundings"
Posted by TigerHam85
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:01 am to
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:02 am to
if only they could blast stupid drivers off of the bridge.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 8:31 am
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:16 am to
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How about this - instead of parking at the crossovers where everyone knows they are, have the officers actually drive and patrol the bridge.
They run radar 95% of the time, even when driving on the bridge or to their houses. Most of them just never turn it off.

Also, the causeway cops picked up a laser gun last year. I think those are around $5-10k a piece. They don't have to be in their cars for that, and are usually hiding behind one of the flatbed trucks

I think the causeway clears like $20M/yr IIRC. Shouldn't they be the ones paying for the fuel and salaries of the guys in the helicopters?
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:29 am to
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How about this - instead of parking at the crossovers where everyone knows they are, have the officers actually drive and patrol the bridge.


This does seem like it would keep drivers on their toes.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:38 am to
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How can you be on the site since 2013 with 8 posts? It's not like you used an alter to make that reasoned response.
Guess you could say it's




quite the conundrum



:rimshot:




get it cuz that's his username
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:19 am to
What about the tension cables that had been brought up last year when the last car went overboard?
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:34 am to
Yeah it would be a great idea if the cops drove 85 to catch the people going 80. Genius idea
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:35 am to
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Annoying. Yeah, since all the crime is cleared up in the city, let's worry about someone doing 7 miles over the limit.


Yea, frick public safety with people losing control and going over the bridge and dying. No need to worry about that.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20747 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:38 am to
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Yeah it would be a great idea if the cops drove 85 to catch the people going 80. Genius idea


What? If a cop is parked or driving the bridge, he would have to go pretty fast either way to catch someone going 80.

My suggestion was to have them drive the bridge going 65 or 70. If anyone overtakes them, pull them over. If nobody overtakes them, they are acting as the pace cars (like they do during fog convoys) and "public safety" is achieved.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:46 am to
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My suggestion was to have them drive the bridge going 65 or 70. If anyone overtakes them, pull them over. If nobody overtakes them, they are acting as the pace cars (like they do during fog convoys) and "public safety" is achieved.


How many cops are you planning on constantly driving in each direction to have this slow people down for the entire bridge?

I'd say you would need at least one every mile. That means you have roughly 48 officers constantly driving. That's 48 cars using up a lot of gas, and 48 officers being paid. Not to mention the the wear and tear on the vehicles. There isn't some bottomless bank account to pay for all that with.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:46 am to
The tension cables won't work on the bridge - something about "run off area". I don't remember the whole explanation, but I heard Carlton Dufrechou talking about it.

They have been cracking down on speeding since December. Marked and unmarked cars are patrolling between crossovers. They are writing tickets for as low as 67 or 68. It's all about preventing "overboards", and the faster you're traveling, the more likely you are to end up in the lake if involved in a collision (cet. par.).

When they raised the speed limit to 65, part of the reasoning was to have a more uniform flow of traffic. Assholes who drive 80 and then slam on their brakes at each crossover cause problems

The barrier study being conducted at Texas A&M is going to cost a fortune to implement. Nobody wants to pay higher tolls. Maybe a reduced speed limit and strict enforcement is an alternative solution.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20747 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:58 am to
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How many cops are you planning on constantly driving in each direction to have this slow people down for the entire bridge?


Instead of say having 4 parked at crossovers, just have 2 or 3 parked and the others driving. Everyone knows they are parked at the crossovers so it's rare they catch someone speeding. This would have those thinking of speeding thinking twice before gunning it.

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There isn't some bottomless bank account to pay for all that with


Air patrols aren't cheap either
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:01 am to
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Air patrols aren't cheap either


Which costs more? I'm betting having 48 units constantly patrolling does.

ETA:

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This would have those thinking of speeding thinking twice before gunning it.


So does the threat of an air patrol that isn't visible form the road.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 10:02 am
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:01 am to
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strict enforcement is an alternative solution.


This is the correct solution. First, they have an asslooad of cops and vehicles anyway, put them to use.
Second, St Tammany and Jefferson drivers are only marginally better than Baton Rouge drivers, they absolutely need to be limited to 65 in a confined space.

Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28164 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:02 am to
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48 units


That's too many for 48 miles of bridge anyway.

Just do more patrols during rush hour(s).
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:05 am to
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That's too many for 48 miles of bridge anyway.


It's not if you don't want people speeding at all. which is what etm was suggesting.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20747 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:08 am to
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It's hot if you don't want people speeding at all. which is what etm was suggesting.


I was? I think I was just suggesting more cost effective solutions than air patrols.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:09 am to
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I was?


Without thinking through, yes you were.


quote:

I think I was just suggesting more cost effective solutions than air patrols.


And you suggestion would be ineffective without a significant cost.
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