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Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:07 pm to CourtesyFlush
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Portion sizes exploded
This x1000.
Go look at a fast food joint picture from the 50s and look at the size of their plates. Then go look at the food we eat today.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:40 pm to Cracker
quote:
No they didn't you dolt
I don't think too many people were going Atkins or Paleo in the 50's
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:45 pm to Honky Lips
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quote:
I don't think too many people where going Atkins or Paleo in the 50's
People were eating Paleo way before the 50's
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:50 pm to CourtesyFlush
quote:
Portion sizes exploded
This x 1000
Who here is old enough to remember when a coke was 8oz, and the big bottle was 12oz. A big mac was the giant burger. etc
We are simply consuming way too many calories.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:00 pm to BRgetthenet
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They didn't even have roids. At the most, milk was your go to supplement for packing on mass and making #Gainz.
That may have limited muscle size, but I'm sure kids playing with toys made from radioactive materials, everyone handling mercury, lead paint being the standard, and asbestos in practically everything, didn't help with weight gain or retention either...
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:02 pm to CourtesyFlush
quote:
Portion sizes exploded
I'm always asking my wife when we go out to eat why don't they make the portions smaller and drop the cost a few bucks. Most places put too much food on the plate. I don't know how people eat appetizers, entree, and a dessert. I only ever get an entree and most places is more than I can eat comfortably, and I'm a 6' 200lb man. This is the cause for obesity, people are eating too much food.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:05 pm to Honky Lips
our food wasn't so full of sugar in the 1950's
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:06 pm to cssamerican
quote:All of this.
Most places put too much food on the plate. I don't know how people eat appetizers, entree, and a dessert. I only ever get an entree and most places is more than I can eat comfortably, and I'm a 6' 200lb man. This is the cause for obesity, people are eating too much food.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:10 pm to SECdragonmaster
Welcome to Keto, brother.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:10 pm to cave canem
quote:
This x 1000 Who here is old enough to remember when a coke was 8oz, and the big bottle was 12oz. A big mac was the giant burger. etc We are simply consuming way too many calories.
Actually that original Coke bottle was 6.5 ounces.
The glass ones now are 8 ounces.
And yes I'm old enough to remember my mother handing the car keys to one of the Wade Lemoine Esso attendants and he opened the trunk and would exchange the wooden case of empty Coke bottles with a fresh one. Those few Cokes were about the extent of our sugar.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:12 pm to Honky Lips
Can I get a link to average weight for American adults in the 50s and today?
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:16 pm to GRTiger
quote:Here you go
Can I get a link to average weight for American adults in the 50s and today?
quote:
The average weight for men rose "dramatically," in the CDC's words, from 166.3 pounds in 1960 to 191 pounds in 2002. Women went from 140.2 pounds in 1960 to 164.3 pounds in 2002.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:20 pm to cssamerican
Thanks. I assume the definition of obesity is applied evenly? They don't state it in that article from what I saw.
I know what is called fat these days was called healthy, and even sexy back then.
Not making an argument at the moment, just looking for cited facts.
I think much of what has been posted in the thread makes sense.
I know what is called fat these days was called healthy, and even sexy back then.
Not making an argument at the moment, just looking for cited facts.
I think much of what has been posted in the thread makes sense.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:21 pm to GRTiger
I changed the link to something more exact, dealing with weight instead of BMI
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:24 pm to cssamerican
That's a big jump. Aside from accounting for an increase in height and perhaps weight lifting or other healthier reasons for a higher average, the article also talks about ethnicity, which has gotten more diverse since then.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:32 pm to Honky Lips
The TRUE difference is processed food ---- and SUGAR. Sugar is basically the worst. Well, fake sugar is actually the worsty worst.
In the 50's, stay at home moms cooked. What did they cook, a box of macaroni or rice a roni? No, they cooked real food. No boxes, no processed. No dehydrated. No bleached flour, no "enriched" anything (enriched sounds like a good thing right?)
These processed foods are super saturated with calories.
It is not carbs. Any actual nutritionist or dietitian will tell you to EAT CARBS. Eat a balanced diet. They will actually tell you to eat FAT. Yes, you need a balance -- carbs, protein and fat. (healthy fats) Typically 40/40/20 or 30/40/30.
Meat is another problem. We eat way too much meat. I'm certain that all of you brainwashed individuals immediately thought of protein deficiency when I said that. However, that is just the "Pavlov's dog" coming out of you. Vegetables have protein in them. Adding beans, legumes, nuts, etc. will give you more than enough protein as well.
Question this, why does the food pyramid change every 10 - 20 years. Have there been scientific breakthroughs? Or, is it simply that the FDA is sadly open to the highest bidder. And who exactly do you think the highest bidders are?? Hmm, diary - check, meat - double check. Do those have anything to do with COWS???
What other animal in the world drinks the mother's milk --- of another animal?
TL:DR - Cut back on your meat intake, do NOT cook anything out of a box. You must actually cut and cook your food. This is truly the secret. Eat WHATEVER you want -- but you must cook it. And it must be whole foods.
I spent most of my late 20's and early 30s in the 230 range (6'1" - big skeleton - was overweight but hid well enough) switched to a healthy food lifestyle, didn't start working out, and for the last 5 years I've been between 200 -210 -- and ......not to brag, but I'm pretty fricking sexy. All because I stopped eating fast food and quick fix boxes....
An entire head of cauliflower is only 100 calories. This will fill you up completely. For equivalence this is less than 1 bite of some deserts. 1 small spoon versus stuffing yourself to the gills with a literal superfood.
In the 50's, stay at home moms cooked. What did they cook, a box of macaroni or rice a roni? No, they cooked real food. No boxes, no processed. No dehydrated. No bleached flour, no "enriched" anything (enriched sounds like a good thing right?)
These processed foods are super saturated with calories.
It is not carbs. Any actual nutritionist or dietitian will tell you to EAT CARBS. Eat a balanced diet. They will actually tell you to eat FAT. Yes, you need a balance -- carbs, protein and fat. (healthy fats) Typically 40/40/20 or 30/40/30.
Meat is another problem. We eat way too much meat. I'm certain that all of you brainwashed individuals immediately thought of protein deficiency when I said that. However, that is just the "Pavlov's dog" coming out of you. Vegetables have protein in them. Adding beans, legumes, nuts, etc. will give you more than enough protein as well.
Question this, why does the food pyramid change every 10 - 20 years. Have there been scientific breakthroughs? Or, is it simply that the FDA is sadly open to the highest bidder. And who exactly do you think the highest bidders are?? Hmm, diary - check, meat - double check. Do those have anything to do with COWS???
What other animal in the world drinks the mother's milk --- of another animal?
TL:DR - Cut back on your meat intake, do NOT cook anything out of a box. You must actually cut and cook your food. This is truly the secret. Eat WHATEVER you want -- but you must cook it. And it must be whole foods.
I spent most of my late 20's and early 30s in the 230 range (6'1" - big skeleton - was overweight but hid well enough) switched to a healthy food lifestyle, didn't start working out, and for the last 5 years I've been between 200 -210 -- and ......not to brag, but I'm pretty fricking sexy. All because I stopped eating fast food and quick fix boxes....
An entire head of cauliflower is only 100 calories. This will fill you up completely. For equivalence this is less than 1 bite of some deserts. 1 small spoon versus stuffing yourself to the gills with a literal superfood.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:32 pm to GRTiger
Intersting article about Marilyn Monroe's figure
So women on average are about 10 inches bigger in the waistline today than in the 50s
quote:
So what size was Marilyn Monroe actually? Luckily, many of her dresses, carefully preserved, are still around to measure off of. Further, one of her dress makers also chimed in with exact measurements he took. Those measurements were 5 ft. 5.5 inches tall; 35 inch bust; 22 inch waist (approximately 2-3 inches less than the average American woman in the 1950s and 12 inches less than average today); and 35 inch hips, with a bra size of 36D.
So women on average are about 10 inches bigger in the waistline today than in the 50s
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:40 pm to Balloon Huffer
quote:
Well, fake sugar is actually the worsty worst.
While there's no research suggesting 'fake sugar' is any good for you, you'd be very hard pressed to find any scientific literature that conclusively shows 'fake sugar' as inherently bad. Most of the studies are flawed in one way or another, and there are many types of 'fake sugar' and they all need to be studied and evaluated independently. It is certainly a murky enough topic to at least be unable to label fake sugars as worse than actual sugar, which scientific research shows is bad for you when taken in excessively.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 10:19 pm to cssamerican
America is fat and sick.
All the clues are there. What has changed? Read my post up above.
People do stupid shite like count calories or eat no carbs -- all while putting chemical laden substances in their body.
PS - BLEACHED (enriched) flour --- is not good for you. Why do they BLEACH IT? because flour is naturally yellow, and yellow looks dingy....sad but true.
Whats really sad -- if you just let the flour sit in a window for 2 days it will turn white on its own......but companies cannot wait for this (lost profits) so what do they do --- they actually put BLEACH on your food......and the FDA allows it.
The increase in cancer is DIRECTLY proportional to the increase in the "western diet"
Keep on those fads though, they really work!
All the clues are there. What has changed? Read my post up above.
People do stupid shite like count calories or eat no carbs -- all while putting chemical laden substances in their body.
PS - BLEACHED (enriched) flour --- is not good for you. Why do they BLEACH IT? because flour is naturally yellow, and yellow looks dingy....sad but true.
Whats really sad -- if you just let the flour sit in a window for 2 days it will turn white on its own......but companies cannot wait for this (lost profits) so what do they do --- they actually put BLEACH on your food......and the FDA allows it.
The increase in cancer is DIRECTLY proportional to the increase in the "western diet"
Keep on those fads though, they really work!
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 8:11 am
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