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Car insurance claim question

Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:08 am
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:08 am
I was rear ended last week. Other driver was at fault and ticketed by police. I called his insurance the next morning to get the claim started. They stated they would get with me to schedule claim once the insured accepted liability. I understood as police incident report isn't available yet. Get a call a few days later and get estimate scheduled. After estimate, we try to schedule the actual repair and I'm told the insurance isn't covering until they get in contact with their driver to accept liability. I ask the adjuster, "what happens if he never answers, do we have to wait twp weeks for the police report?" He tells me it doesn't matter what the police report says, his insured has to accept liability or there will be an "investigstion". Said the report is just a 3rd party and since they weren't there, it's not the ultimate defining who's at fault document.

Is that normal? How can the police report not make it clear? There were no witnesses, so it becomes a my word against his. That sounds pretty sketchy to me.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:10 am to
a police report will be damning but they'll probably still do own "investigation" to confirm, just kick the other driver's arse.
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:11 am to
quote:

I ask the adjuster, "what happens if he never answers, do we have to wait twp weeks for the police report?" He tells me it doesn't matter what the police report says, his insured has to accept liability or there will be an "investigstion".

That's partly true, partly bullshite. The police report will have their insured's license number and VIN on it. That will be enough for his insurance company to go forward. That adjuster may be new and not fully understand the process yet. He's partly right but not completely.

If all else fails, go through your insurance and pay your deductible. Get it back after investigation.
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:14 am to
What company does he have?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:17 am to
you need to file the claim with your company and let them take care of it or this is going to drag out for quite some time
Posted by theronswanson
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Is that normal? How can the police report not make it clear? There were no witnesses, so it becomes a my word against his. That sounds pretty sketchy to me.


The police report should be enough. Depending on which agency did the accident investigation the report may be available. If it is buy it and send a copy via certified letter asking for your property damage to be paid and to set up and rental car. If after that they deny liability lawyer up.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:19 am to
I realize you can always argue fault after the point, so it's not like I think the police report is "final" and there is no way around it. But I never would have thought a company's policy would be to not pay. Except in the circumstance where their client told them that even though the report said he was at fault, he felt he wasnt. Guy who hit me was unbelievably nice and took full responsibility. But if he has a new number or just ignores the calls, am I stuck with a broke arse looking car because they couldn't get in touch with him?

If my car isn't in the shop within a few days of the police report becoming available, then I'm going through my insurance (and I might just get a neck ache....... not really going to do that).
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 10:22 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:22 am to
quote:

But if he has a new number or just ignores the calls, am I stuck with a broke arse looking car because they couldn't get in touch with him?


no, but the company is doing their due diligence and trying to get a recorded statement

quote:

If my car isn't in the shop within a few days of the police report becoming available, then I'm going through my insurance (and I might just get a neck ache....... not really going to do that).



it can be a pain going solely through the at fault insureds insurance company.
Posted by Caymus
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:48 am to
Lawyer Up
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:55 am to
The insurance company does an investigation for every accident. This includes taking statements from all drivers, witnesses (if any exist), photographing the involved vehicles, and obtaining the police report.

If they can get their drivers statement and yours, that may be enough to decide their driver is at fault and issue payment.

The problem with police reports is sometimes the officer will drop back and punt, saying he wasn't there and can't decide who was at fault (in a situation where both drivers say they have a green light, for instance). In your case it should be pretty straight forward and should be enough for the other drivers company to establish liability, especially if the other driver was so cooperative.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Lawyer Up

Before Vitter's tort reform prevents you from getting your car fixed
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:03 am to
quote:

The problem with police reports is sometimes the officer will drop back and punt, saying he wasn't there and can't decide who was at fault (in a situation where both drivers say they have a green light, for instance).


Except that OP said he was rear ended, so liability shouldn't be an issue.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:03 am to
Why don't you lawyer up and sue them for whatever his liability limits are? You can join the other piece of shits in this state that make our insurance the highest in the country.
I know i will when i get rear ended one day, and i could care less what anyone thinks of me for doing it.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
58333 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:06 am to
That's why I followed up that paragraph with this:

quote:

In your case it should be pretty straight forward and should be enough for the other drivers company to establish liability, especially if the other driver was so cooperative.



ETA There are situations where there person who does the rear ending isn't at fault. It's very rare, but it does happen. Point is, it's not an automatic at fault 100% of the time.
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 11:08 am
Posted by TorNation
Sulphur, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2866 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:26 am to
It's normal at least when I was a claims adjuster. Police report nor a ticket determine liability and the claims adjuster in this case isn't working for you, they are working for the party which you were involved in an accident. Louisiana is also a shared negligence state meaning one party could be 75% and the other party 25% negligent in an accident. It can be aggravating waiting to hear from the other driver but it's necessary on the other insurance company's part to to exhaust every means possible to reach their insured for a statement.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:50 am to
This is why I just lawyer up every time.

Let the ambulance chaser get my money and I'll take care of the car and get reimbursed.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:52 am to
quote:

(and I might just get a neck ache....... not really going to do that).


My fiance hit a person at 5mph, no airbags, no real damage and still got sued.

If I get rear ended I'm suing.
Just the way it is.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:54 am to
quote:

I know i will when i get rear ended one day, and i could care less what anyone thinks of me for doing it.


That's how I see it.

I had a friend borrow my car, get in a wreck (not his fault) I got the money for the car and he got $20,000.
I'll take that. shite.
I carry a high limit now, I'll sue myself too.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
58333 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 12:08 pm to
Did the other person get an attorney and file an actual lawsuit, or just get an attorney?

Hiring an attorney to represent you in a claim is not suing someone.
Posted by Slinky
Member since Dec 2013
3118 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 12:12 pm to
What insurance company?

This happened to my GF and she called the next day, they gave her the run around, she called State Farm (her company) and the at fault driver's insurance accepted liability within 48 hours after she let SF handle the claim. The at fault driver never contacted his insurance and they never officially accepted liability (the driver) but the insurance company did.
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 12:14 pm
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