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re: Car dealers have so much backlog, some 2022s are "new"

Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:34 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:34 am to
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Being forced?


You can only max out so many CCs my dude.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:34 am to
So how are they being forced specifically?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38814 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:35 am to
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Our 2015 4Runner is long paid off and we’re going to drive it into the ground. Who is paying these prices?!


One paid off one paid off may 2024

Will drive in ground lol
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:36 am to
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This is where everyone who is poor on the OT fronts and talks about how their cars are paid off and they’ll drive their 2007 into the ground before buying new.



FIFY
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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423308 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:38 am to
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14004 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:41 am to
Dealerships should accept EBT and WIC cards.
Posted by hillrosetiger
BR
Member since Jul 2011
169 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:42 am to
Really said that Chevy or jeep can’t manufacture a better product. I’ve owned Toyota and Honda, I’ve also owned ford and Chevy. There is no comparison.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:43 am to
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People are drowning financially


Then they thats there own fault. No one is forcing them to refi. They could BK just as easily or just let the debt go and keep the 3%


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:44 am to
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Really said that Chevy or jeep can’t manufacture a better product. I


Why did you limit this to just Chevy or Jeep?

quote:

I’ve owned Toyota


2022 Tundra

2022 Corolla

2022 Tundra

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and Honda


2022 Passport
Posted by lakeviewtiger
BC
Member since Jul 2005
2344 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:44 am to
Planned obsolescence
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120380 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:45 am to
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People are drowning financially


Because they refuse to cut back

The same people drowning are still going on vacations, going out to eat several times a week, buying tons of shite for christmas, etc
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423308 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:47 am to
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No one is forcing them to refi. They could BK j




Classic.

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or just let the debt go

Most of these people are professionals not judgment proof leeches.

All the Covid printing in 2020 and the mega inflation it caused, along with salaries being stagnant, has put the majority of Americans in -EV financial situations. Add in the shitty policies post-2008 regarding interest rates to create effectively inflation in order to counter the deflation our economy needed, and here we are.

The point is that prices are too high. Cars, houses, etc. Deflation is needed again.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20439 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:48 am to
what do you mean the only way we can save the environment and Palestinian children is to give money to Ukraine, that's the only way to fix inflation.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7850 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:49 am to
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This is where everyone who is poor on the OT fronts and talks about how their cars are paid off and they’ll drive their 2015 into the ground before buying new.


Conveniently…

I replaced the transmission in my F-150 this week instead of purchasing a new vehicle. I’m not paying 15k more for the same vehicle coupled with a 6-9% interest rate.

Much cheaper to pay the 10k for the transmission.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48740 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:49 am to
Most Americans are morons when it comes to finances. They stretch themselves financially.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49809 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:49 am to
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2022 Chevy Silverado

Days on market: 324
Miles: 0
Price: $50,035



No one wants a 4 cylinder full size pick up. Damn government regulations
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423308 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:49 am to
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Because they refuse to cut back

The same people drowning are still going on vacations, going out to eat several times a week, buying tons of shite for christmas, etc


I'm not saying they're engaging in perfect decision-making; just discussing how the macro is affecting the impacts of that DM.

That's ultimately a tomato-tomato scenario. If they cut back on those things, it would have similar macro issues b/c spending in general needs to decrease (which will force prices down, ultimately). This applies to cars, houses, vacations, restaurants, drip, phones, streaming services, etc.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74118 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:49 am to
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Classic


Whats classic? Is that not an option?
So they are not being forced they chose to get into this position and now are choosing to refi

quote:

All the Covid printing in 2020 


I knew you would slip in your TDS
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 8:51 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423308 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:50 am to
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what do you mean the only way we can save the environment and Palestinian children is to give money to Ukraine, that's the only way to fix inflation.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423308 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:52 am to
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Whats classic? Is that not an option?

It's a worse option and likely not an option.

quote:

So they are not being forced they chose to get into this position and now are choosing to refi


If they want to keep their homes, cars, etc., it's not much of a choice.

Homes and cars need a crash to offset this post-2020 (and 2009) imbalance.
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